On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:44:30 +0200, "Jan Kronsell"
<kronsell(nomorespam)@adslhome.dk> wrote:
>Rune Jensen wrote:
>> N_B_DK skrev:
>>> "P.C." <per.corell@privat.dk> wrote in message
>>> news:2212b068-396c-4053-8917-c65d97013bdf@l16g2000vba.googlegroups.com
>>>
>>>> Man har i mange år søgt en forklaring på hvorfor et stykke brød
>>>> altid falder med smørret nedad hvis man taber det,
>>>
>>> Hvilket er en myte, men det betyder intet vel?
>>
>>
>> Samme som at tiden går hurtigere, når man har det skægt, eller at den
>> går hurtigere, når man nærmer sig de tredve.
>>
>Men du glemmer at skelne mellem faktisk tid og oplevet tid.
....og "virkelig tid"
"Ordinarily what we call time is not real time. It is chronological
time. So remember that time can be divided, classified, in three ways.
One is "chronological," another is "psychological," and the third is
"real." The chronological time is clock time. It is utilitarian; it is
not real. It is just a belief agreed upon by the society. We have
agreed to divide the day into twenty-four hours. It is very arbitrary
that the earth moves in one complete circle on its axis in twenty-four
hours; we have decided to divide it into twenty-four. Then we have
decided to divide each hour into sixty minutes. There is no intrinsic
necessity to divide it that way. Some other civilization may divide it
in a different way. We can divide the hour into a hundred minutes and
nobody is going to prevent us. Then each minute we have divided into
sixty seconds. That too is arbitrary, just utilitarian. It is clock
time. It is needed; otherwise society will fall apart.
In Christianity it is said that hell is eternal. Bertrand Russell has
written a book, WHY I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN, in which he gives many
arguments why he is not a Christian. One of the arguments is this, "I
cannot believe that hell can be eternal because whatsoever the sins,
they are limited. You cannot do unlimited sins. So for limited sins
unlimited punishment -- it is unjust." The argument is simple. Nobody
can argue against Bertrand Russell; he is saying a simple fact. He
himself says, "If I am punished for all the sins that I have committed
in my whole life, then not more than four years' imprisonment. And
even if those sins are included that I have not committed but only
thought, then at the most eight years, or a little margin more, ten
years. But infinite, eternal hell?" Then God seems to be too
revengeful, does not look divine, does not look godly, looks like a
very horrible, devilish force.
Because you loved a woman who was not your wife, now you will suffer
-- eternally. This is too much. You have not committed such a great
sin. It is human to fall in love, and when one falls in love it is
difficult to decide whether or not to fall in love with a woman who is
not anybody else's wife. Hmm ?... love is almost blind. It possesses
you.
Yes, Bertrand Russell seems to be right, his argument seems to be
valid; but I say the argument is not valid. He has missed the whole
point. And no Christian theologian has answered him on that point yet.
They cannot answer because they have also forgotten. They go on
talking about theories, but they have forgotten realities. When Jesus
says hell is eternal, he means psychological time, not chronological
time. Yes, if he means chronological time, then it is absolutely
absurd, to throw a man in eternal hell. He means psychological time,
He means that one moment in hell will look like eternity. It will slow
down so much because you will be in such anguish and pain that even a
single moment will look like eternity. You will feel it is not going
to end anytime, it is not going to end. You will feel it continues,
continues, continues.
Chronological time corresponds to the body, psychological time to the
mind, real time to your being. Chronological time is the extroverted
mind, psychological time is the introverted mind, and real time is
no-mind.
But one has to pass through the psychological. That territory has to
be passed, fully alert. You should not make your abode there. It is a
bridge to be passed; you should not make your abode there. If you make
your abode there you become mad. That's what has happened to many
people who are in madhouses. They have forgotten chronological time,
they have not reached real time, and they have started living on the
bridge, the psychological time. That's why their reality has become
personal and private. A madman lives in a private world, and the man
you call sane lives in a public world. The public world is with
people, the private world is just confined to yourself; but the real
world is neither public nor private. It is universal, it is beyond
both. And one has to go beyond both.
http://tinyurl.com/c2qbzg
--
Rado
All the answers are already within us. It's finding the corresponding
questions that's so darned difficult. - Swami Beyondananda