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Usenet nyhedsgruppe rec.sport.freediving -~
Fra : C. H. Engelbrecht


Dato : 26-06-03 01:16

Dav,

Jeg arbejder på at få kreeret en ny internationalt mindet Usenet
nyhedsgruppe pt navngivet rec.sport.freediving. Jeg prøver forud at finde ud
af om der er interesse for en sådan nyhedsgruppe der kommer til centrere sig
om fridykning. Med fridykning mener jeg alle vejrholdningsaktiviteter under
vand, f.eks. dybdedykning, UV-jagt, rugby og hockey, etc. Vi er en gruppe
fridykkere der søger at få kreeret en sådan gruppe, mest for vores egne
behov, men også for at undgå cross-posting om fridykkeremner i denne gruppe
eller lignende.

Anyway, hvis man er for en skabelse af sådan en gruppe, så send mig mail
(brug ikke denne gruppe). Hvis man er meget imod så send mig ligeledes en
mail, så jeg får et generelt billede. Benyt venligst adressen
chrisengeldk@dkik.dk. Hvis man er revnende ligeglad behøver man ikke
foretage sig noget.

Nedenfor har jeg pastet det første (lange) udkast til gruppen
news.announce.newgroups. Teksten er endnu ikke postet i denne, så proceduren
endnu ikke reelt i gang. Ignorer venligst enhver linie der siger noget i
retning af: 'Emnet kan diskuteres i gruppe det og det', for det kan man pt.
ikke!

Anyway, dyk sikkert,
Christian Engelbrecht, fridykker

---

REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group rec.sport.freediving

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the group
rec.sport.freediving. This is not a Call For Votes (CFV).
You cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.

Newsgroups line:
rec.sport.freediving The sport of Freediving and Apnea and related topics.

RATIONALE: rec.sport.freediving

Freediving is expanding worldwide in numbers of practitioners. The sport of
freediving is related to scuba diving, but is deemed as old as humankind.
The freediver dives without the use of compressed air supply. Freediving is
also called apnea, which relates to the Latin phrase for holding one's
breath. Freedivers conducts a number of activities under water, such as deep
dives with flippers or assisted by weights and inflatable balloons, they
shoot fish with harpunes, they dive long distances in pools, they hold their
breath for time or they play underwater team sports in pool such as UW
hockey and UW rugby. Using weights and inflatable balloons, it is possible
to freedive to more than 500 feet depth.
Deep freediving derived as an organized competition sport in the early
1990's after having been a series of deep diving record attempts since the
early 1950's. The modern day deep diving competitions only allows the use of
flippers. Pool competitions are frequent, particularly across Europe and the
Americas. The first freediving world championship was held in 1996 and
returns every 2 years with participants from all 5 continents. Harpuning
fish, or Spearfishing, as well as the team sports have their own
international events, UW rugby across Europe, UW hockey across the Americas.
There is estimated to be some 10000 freedivers around the world practising
the above mentioned activities.

Currently there is no specific group to discuss freediving issues. This
discourages some people from using Usenet as a medium for discussion of this
area, causes others to cross/multi-post throughout various groups meant for
scuba diving, and means that newcomers have no obvious place to search for
relevant answers or discussions.
In addition, much current discussion of freediving and apnea is driven off
of Usenet to fragmented mailing lists and web-based forums. For example,
the Freedivelist and Apneadiver mailing lists as well as the DeeperBlue.net
forums are frequently recommended to newcomers within the web community
asking about freediving topics, due to the lack of relevant forums within
Usenet. A Google search on 'freediving' provided on 2003-06-25 21,900
results.

The proposed group will serve to be the gathering center of discussions of
freediving issues, including but not limited to: techniques, equipment,
safety procedures, education procedures, competition stories and folk
stories in general.

CHARTER: rec.sport.freediving

An unmoderated newsgroup for discussing the sport of freediving and apnea
and various related topics herein.

Examples of welcome topics include:

o Recommended techniques
o Discussions on equipment
o Training tips
o Diet experiences
o Discussions on safety procedures
o Discussions on education of freedivers
o Discussions on environment issues
o Discussions on governing and other political issues
o News and stories from competitions, including announcing competitions to
the competitors
o Stories from dives, folk tales in general

Examples of inappropriate topics include:

o Cross posting about scuba diving, unless it is related to freediving
safety issues. (Use the specific group.)
o Cross posting and spam of any other kind
o Personal attacks or accusations aimed at individuals

Binaries are allowed, but is requested to be of relevance, small size and
rare in occurance.

It is asked to keep posts somewhat short and to the point, and to be civil
and constructive in the wording of the posts. Particularly in political
discussions one is asked to be polite in his/her criticism towards the
relevant parties.

Relevant commercial posts are acceptable, but should be limited to one per
month per product.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of
the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be
raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of
21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to
news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted
by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.

Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to
Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents
(available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the
process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups, news.groups

Pointers to this RFD will be posted to:

Mailing lists:
Apneadiver (Yahoo group)
Freedivelist (Yahoo group)
Chat_AIDA (Yahoo group)

Proponent: Chris Engelbrecht chrisengeldk@dkik.dk

---
Christian Heckmann Engelbrecht, Copenhagen
Staff member, International Association for the Development of Freediving
(AIDA)
http://www.aida-international.org




 
 
Søren (26-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Søren


Dato : 26-06-03 08:29

> Jeg arbejder på at få kreeret en ny internationalt mindet Usenet
> nyhedsgruppe pt navngivet rec.sport.freediving.

Hvis den skal dække undervandssport generelt, hvorfor så kalde den
freediving ?


M.v.h. Søren Neubert



C. H. Engelbrecht (26-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : C. H. Engelbrecht


Dato : 26-06-03 11:01

> > Jeg arbejder på at få kreeret en ny internationalt mindet Usenet
> > nyhedsgruppe pt navngivet rec.sport.freediving.
>
> Hvis den skal dække undervandssport generelt, hvorfor så kalde den
> freediving ?

Ideen er at den skal dække alle vejrholdningsaktiviteter under vand,
diskussioner om de forskellige nævnte typer sport overlapper gerne hinanden
i debatten nogen gange. Rugby og hockey er også pr. definition fridykning,
og jeg kender flere der dyrker både den ene og den anden form for fridykning
(dybde, rugby, fiskeri, osv.). Jeg ville bare lade porten stå åben for at
alle disse kunne debateres i en sådan gruppe. Det ville de blive alligevel
når tingene er så nært beslægtede.




Søren (26-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Søren


Dato : 26-06-03 16:09

> Ideen er at den skal dække alle vejrholdningsaktiviteter under vand,
> diskussioner om de forskellige nævnte typer sport overlapper gerne
hinanden
> i debatten nogen gange. Rugby og hockey er også pr. definition fridykning,
> og jeg kender flere der dyrker både den ene og den anden form for
fridykning
> (dybde, rugby, fiskeri, osv.). Jeg ville bare lade porten stå åben for at
> alle disse kunne debateres i en sådan gruppe. Det ville de blive alligevel
> når tingene er så nært beslægtede.

Fred være med navngivningen. Jeg synes det er en god ide.

M.v.h. Søren Neubert / fridykkende uv-rugby spiller



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