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Hej alle

2 hurtige Beatles spørgsmål:

1. Glass onion...hvad dælen mener de i sangen? Kigger de igennem et glas
fyldt med løg for at se hvad der sker, eller kender DU baggrunden for
sangen??

2. Hvad er der med de der Walrusses? Er de Paul der er den udpegede Walrus
og hvorfor eller hvordan?

Håber I er lidt bedre inde i stoffet end mig :)

Venlig hilsen

Peter

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"ronny" <m11000@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:amqan2$mvl$1@news.cybercity.dk...
> Hej alle
>
> 2 hurtige Beatles spørgsmål:
>
> 1. Glass onion...hvad dælen mener de i sangen? Kigger de igennem et glas
> fyldt med løg for at se hvad der sker, eller kender DU baggrunden for
> sangen??
>
> 2. Hvad er der med de der Walrusses? Er de Paul der er den udpegede Walrus
> og hvorfor eller hvordan?
>
> Håber I er lidt bedre inde i stoffet end mig :)
>

Prøv at spørge i JP's Beatles forum:
http://www.hotforum.dk/hotforum/instance/7DC5380C.nsf/topic?openview

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Med venlig hilsen

Michael Lund Sørensen
www.milux.dk

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"ronny" <m11000@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:amqan2$mvl$1@news.cybercity.dk...
> Hej alle
>
> 2 hurtige Beatles spørgsmål:
>
> 1. Glass onion...hvad dælen mener de i sangen? Kigger de igennem et glas
> fyldt med løg for at se hvad der sker, eller kender DU baggrunden for
> sangen??
>
> 2. Hvad er der med de der Walrusses? Er de Paul der er den udpegede Walrus
> og hvorfor eller hvordan?
>
> Håber I er lidt bedre inde i stoffet end mig :)
>
> Venlig hilsen
>
> Peter
>
>
At forstå en tekst som er skrevet til Glass Onion, skal man købe sig et glas
løg. Bagefter ryger man sig en ordentlig skid på, ryster glasset så at
løgene
fiser rundt inde i glasset og nu giver det pludselig mening....alt sammen

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ronny wrote:
> Hej alle
>
> 2 hurtige Beatles spørgsmål:
>
> 1. Glass onion...hvad dælen mener de i sangen? Kigger de igennem et
> glas fyldt med løg for at se hvad der sker, eller kender DU
> baggrunden for sangen??

"Looking through a glass onion" betyder at "se igennem et glasløg",
altså et løg lavet af glas, så det er øhh.. gennemsigtigt. Jeg gætter
selvfølgelig bare, men måske har det noget at gøre med at se verden
igennem tårer?!

> 2. Hvad er der med de der Walrusses? Er de Paul der er den udpegede
> Walrus og hvorfor eller hvordan?

"I am the Walrus" hedder den vist. Og det er jo John Lennon der synger,
så mon ikke det er ham selv han mener?

> Håber I er lidt bedre inde i stoffet end mig :)

Jeg er i hvert fald ikke.....!! )

-Sune

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"> > 2 hurtige Beatles spørgsmål:
> >
> > 1. Glass onion...hvad dælen mener de i sangen?

2 lige så hurtige svar:

1. Sangen stammer fra dobbeltalbummet "White Album" fra 1968.
Her var Lennon/McCartney inde i en mere "nøgtern" periode end i
66-67, hvor "Summer of Love", indtagelse af diverse psykedelia,
studieophold i Indien hos Maharishi Mahesh Yogi o.a. højtflyvende
fænomener satte dagsordenen og inspirerede dem til at skrive sange
som "Strawberry Fields Forever", "I am the Walrus".
I 1968 var det en udbredt filosofisk opfattelse i avantgardekredse,
at livets mening kunne forstås som et løg - altså som en rimeligt
kompleks størrelse med flere lag, som man så kunne afskrælle efter
behov og temperament. Når beatlerne så befinder sig "looking
through a glass onion" - ja så piller de lidt i egen navle ved at citere
sig selv og i datid referere til sig selv.

> > 2. Hvad er der med de der Walrusses? Er de Paul der er den udpegede
> > Walrus og hvorfor eller hvordan?

2. Sangen "I am the Walrus" stammer fra den sidste egentlige Beatles-
film - nemlig den let surrealistiske TV-film "Magical Mystery Tour" om
en bustur, hvor passagererne kommer ud for lidt af hvert. (vistnok fra 1967).
I en af scenerne i filmen opfører Beatles denne sang stående ovenpå en meget
høj mur iført hvalroskostumer. Mit bedste bud på et svar, er at Paul i filmen
spiller rollen som den dominerende hvalros...

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ronny wrote:
>
> 2. Hvad er der med de der Walrusses? Er de Paul der er den udpegede Walrus
> og hvorfor eller hvordan?

Fra et laaaangt interview med John Lennon og Yoko Ono i Playboy i 1981
(http://www.angelfire.com/pq/yesterdaysmusic/interview.html)

PLAYBOY: "I am the Walrus."?

LENNON: The first line was written on one acid trip one weekend. The
second line was written on the next acid trip the next weekend, and it
was filled in after I met Yoko. Part of it was putting down Hare
Krishna. All these people were going on about Hare Krishna, Allen
Ginsberg in particular. The reference to "Element'ry penguin" is the
elementary, naive attitude of going around chanting, "Hare Krishna," or
putting all your faith in any one idol. I was writing obscurely, a la
Dylan, in those days.

PLAYBOY: The song is very complicated, musically.

LENNON: It actually was fantastic in stereo, but you never hear it all.
There was too much to get on. It was too messy a mix. One track was live
BBC Radio -- Shakespeare or something -- I just fed in whatever lines
came in.

PLAYBOY: What about the walrus itself?

LENNON: It's from "The Walrus and the Carpenter." "Alice in Wonderland."
To me, it was a beautiful poem. It never dawned on me that Lewis Carroll
was commenting on the capitalist and social system. I never went into
that bit about what he really meant, like people are doing with the
Beatles' work. Later, I went back and looked at it and realized that the
walrus was the bad guy in the story and the carpenter was the good guy.
I thought, Oh, shit, I picked the wrong guy. I should have said, "I am
the carpenter." But that wouldn't have been the same, would it?
[Singing] "I am the carpenter...."

--
mvh. Karsten Strandgaard Jørgensen
http://www.hammerich.cjb.net
"Quit trying to act like I'm a steamboat operator"

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"ronny" <m11000@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:amqan2$mvl$1@news.cybercity.dk...
> Hej alle
>
> 2 hurtige Beatles spørgsmål:
>
> 1. Glass onion...hvad dælen mener de i sangen? Kigger de igennem et glas
> fyldt med løg for at se hvad der sker, eller kender DU baggrunden for
> sangen??
>
> 2. Hvad er der med de der Walrusses? Er de Paul der er den udpegede Walrus
> og hvorfor eller hvordan?
>
> Håber I er lidt bedre inde i stoffet end mig :)
>
> Venlig hilsen
>
> Peter
>
>

Læs hvad john og paul selv har fortalt om det emne:

"I Am The Walrus is also one of my favorite tracks-because I did it, of
course, but also because it is one of those that has enough little bitties
going to keep you interested even a hundred years later(JL1974). It's from
The Walrus and the Carpenter, Alice In Wonderland. To me, it was a beautiful
poem. It never dawned on me that Lewis Carroll was commenting on the
capitalist system. I never went into that bit about what it really meant,
like people are doing with The Beatles' work. Later I went back and looked
at it and realised that the Walrus was the bad guy in the story, and the
Carpenter was the good guy, I thought, 'Oh shit, I've picked the wrong guy.'
But that wouldn't have been the same, would it? I am the
Carpenter...'(JL1980) We saw the movie in L.A. and the Walrus was a big
capitalist that ate all the f**king oysters. I always had the image of the
Walrus in the garden and I loved it, and so I didn't ever check what the
Walrus was. He's a f**king bastard-thats what he turns out to be. But the
way it's written, everybody presumes that means something. I mean even I
did. We all just presumed that because I said 'I Am The Walrus' that it
means 'I Am God' or something. It's just poetry, but it became symbolic of
me (JL1970)."


"John wrote the tune 'Glass Onion', I mean he wrote it mainly, but I helped
him on it, and when we were writing it we were thinking specifically of the
whole idea of all these kind of people who write in and say 'Who is the
Walrus, John? Were you the Walrus?' or 'Is Paul the Walrus?' So John, I
mean, he happened to have a line go 'Oh Yeah, the Walrus was Paul' and we
had a great giggle to say yeah let's do that. Let's put this line in 'cause
everybody's gonna read into it and go crackers cause they all thought John
was the Walrus(PM)."


"I was just having a laugh because there had been so much gobblegook about
'Pepper', play it backwards and you stand on your head and all that(JL)."
That was me just doing a throwaway. I threw in the line 'the Walrus was
Paul'-just to confuse everybody a bit more. It could have been 'the Fox
Terrier was Paul'. It's just a piece of poetry(JL1980)."