well well,well,
koos likes Bach,
well koos,IMO ,you are now a few points up!!!
marten
"Koos Nolst Trenite" <AmbassadorForMankind@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:pan.2008.07.09.08.19.17.333570@hotmail.com...
> Extremely High Performances of Bach - Introduction to Bach
> (Johann Sebastian Bach)
>
> 31 December 2005
> {HRI 20051021-V3.2-A-V1.1}
>
> (Addition Version 1.1
> on 9 July 2008)
>
>
>
> Extremely High Quality Performances of the music created by
> Johann Sebastian Bach (music usually referred to simply as 'Bach'):
>
>
> 1. Oboe Concertos BWV 1053R, 1056R, 1059R, 1060R
> performed by Goritzki, oboe, and Rilling, conductor.
>
> 2. Violin Solo - the 'Chaconne' and some other parts from the
> Sonatas and Partitas for violin solo,
> performed (definitely) by James Ehnes, violin.
>
> 3. Mass in B minor 'Hohe Messe'
> performed by Karajan, conductor.
>
> 4. Saint Matthew Passion 'Matthaeus Passion'
> conducted by Klemperer, and then the same, conducted by
> Harnoncourt, and then by Koopmans, and then by Rilling.
>
> 5. All the Piano concertos, performed by Zoltan Kocsis.
>
> 6. All the Violin Concertos, by Yehudi Menuhin (in 1960).
>
> 7. The first movements, 'Preludes,' of the Cello Suites,
> performed (definitely) by Robert Cohen, cello
>
> '
>
> The performers make a considerable difference, which is why
> I mention them, here
>
> - however, there are very many, very high quality
> performances of Bach, and so I had to call these
> Extremely High Quality Performances, and
>
> - if by way of introduction to Bach, then maybe they are
> listened to in the order suggested above.
>
> '
>
> As regards the solo violin and solo cello, the performers
> indicated (Ehnes and Cohen) are mandatory for a first listening,
> because these do perform the pieces correctly, which is not the
> case with many other performers of the same works.
>
> So it is with the other performers indicated.
>
> After you listened to them, you can try other performances to
> your liking.
>
> Maria-Joao Pires is a perfect performer of Bach and
> Mozart, due to her ability - like for instance Robert Cohen and
> James Ehnes, and Zoltan Kocsis do too - to feel the composer.
> She, Maria-Joao Pires, has however not recorded the whole oevre
> of Bach or of Mozart, for her instrument (piano).
>
> Performers who play Bach "as if they are senior to Bach,"
> (e.g. Glenn Gould, piano) and those who perform Bach with
> the emotions not of Bach but of other composers, (e.g.
> Itzhak Perlman, violin) should be avoided as regards those
> performances, no matter how assertive or proud these may
> be or have been, about their versions of the work of Bach.
>
> '
>
> '
>
> This HRI adds to:
>
> 'Bach Pulling People Out Of Hell' {HRI 20051021-V3.2}
> (21 October 2005 - Version 3.2 on 13 Dec 2005)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/aa3efef314af04f7
>
> '
>
> Now I am not at all going to discuss what is 'Extremely High Quality
> Performance' of Johann Sebastian Bach.
>
> It is rather so, that you either can hear it, and want to hear
> it - or you can not hear it, or do not want to hear it.
>
> Discussing it - with some fruits resulting - would
> pre-suppose an ability and knowledge
>
> to define Music
>
> (not to mention the ability and knowledge
> to define Beauty)
>
> - an (amount of) ability and knowledge that is not
> present currently, in our society.
>
> So I will refrain from that discussion, and also not enter into
> it.
>
> I can refer those who desire to know why I do so refrain,
> to
>
> 'Explaining The Scale Of Sanity' {HRI 20040619-V3.4}
> (19 June 2004) (Version 3.4 on 2 Sept 2004)
>
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/alt.education/msg/7ee775b1a7d5b10f
>
> '
>
> I do however like to mention, what a Bach listener recently used in
> his signature to a New Year's wish:
>
> "I listen to Bach to clear my head, first thing in the morning
> starting the day, and last thing at night.
> He's my handle on the possibility of continuing human-ness and
> human creativity in an increasingly inhumane and destructive
> world."
>
> The world he may see and understand, is compassionately seen and
> deeply understood, in
>
> 'Justice - Definition of Justice, What is Justice'
> {HRI 20051219-V1.2}
> (19 December 2005 - Version 1.2 on 24 Dec 2005)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/ce6a309f41c95866
>
http://groups.google.com/group/human-rights-issues/msg/a27719f3ad567907
> '
>
> That Justice is my very achievable wish for you, also for the New Year
> and for the years to come, especially for my faithful readers, yes,
> for you, from
>
> Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
> human rights philosopher and poet
>
> 'Solomon's wisdom was greater
> than the wisdom of
> all the men of the East,
> and greater
> than all the wisdom of Egypt.'
>
> 1 Kings 4:30
>
> __________
> References:
>
> 'The Nature of War' (NOW)
> {HRI 20051027-V1.8.1}
> (27 Oct 2005 - Version 1.8.1 on 4 May 2007)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/71ca92e9e9d5e495
> '
>
> (p1)'The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth - Introduction: Life Forms'
> {HRI 20010829-pi1-V1.1.1}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 1 Version 1.1.1 on 11 Sept 2006)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/88a7a7b2d830d5e6
>
> (p2)'The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth - Introduction: Our Planet'
> {HRI 20010829-pi2-V1.2}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 2 Version 1.2 on 12 Sept 2006)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/06119c3448d82941
>
> (p3) 'The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth - The Denial'
> {HRI 20010829-pi3-V1.2}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 3 Version 1.2 on 13 Sept 2006)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/2c7d720f49c84375
>
> (p4) 'The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth
> - Some Fine Particle Physics'
> {HRI 20010829-pi4-V3.0}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 4 Version 3.0 on 14 Sept 2006)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/c99ab8c8bdd57a1c
>
> (p5) 'The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth
> - The Nature Of The Physical Universe'
> {HRI 20010829-pi5-V3.2.1}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 5 Version 3.2.1 on 18 Sept 2006)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/f433f1aa6f29a904
>
> (p6) 'The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth
> - Opposing The Nature Of The Creation'
> {HRI 20010829-pi6-V4.3.1}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 6 Version 4.3.1 on 27 Sept 2006)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/2978c2606a0953c0
>
> (p7) 'The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth
> - Life Energy Particles And Your Body'
> {HRI 20010829-pi7-V2.1}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 7 Version 2.1 on 28 Sep 2006)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/bd8c8b7f79027767
>
> (p8) 'The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth - Life Energy Particles
> - Perception And Motion'
> {HRI 20010829-pi8-V1.3.1}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 8 Version 1.3.1 on 9 Oct 2006)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/50b5bc5307f3fdf1
>
> (p9) 'The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth - Life Energy Particles
> - Perception At A Distance'
> {HRI 20010829-pi9-V3.0.1}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 9 Version 3.0.1 on 13 Nov 2007)
>
>
> {HRI 20010829-pi9-V3.0}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 9 Version 3.0 on 11 Oct 2006)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/507d3a77159c02fe
>
> (p10)'The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth - Content Of Life Energy
> Particles - Mechanics of Deception'
> {HRI 20010829-pi10-V2.3}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 10 Version 2.3 on 22 Oct 2006)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/6e9224264ec0595c
>
> (p11)'The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth - Certainty of Perception'
> {HRI 20010829-pi11-V2.0}
> (29 August 2001 - part issue 11 Version 2.0 on 30 Oct 2006)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/1d8d3f2a78ab95fe
> '
>
> (nn) 'You Prefer To Feel The Pleasant, Caring MASK Of Criminal Minds'
> (27 July 2005 - Quoted from {HRI 20040920-V2.4} )
>
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/bb346d9baa481457
>
> (nn) 'Defining God correctly - and Heaven, and Hell - What is
> Monotheism' (DGC)
> {HRI 20080406-V4.6.1}
> (6 April 2008 - Version 4.6.1 on 1 June 2008)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/926dd8d3851b8f8e
>
> (nn) 'Issue Note V3.0 on 'The Hippocrates Syndrome
> - Current State of Mental Health Care And Understanding
> - Consequences For Decision Makers, Caretakers And Caregivers' '
> (27 September 2005)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/7e28b77daa515f63
> '
>
> ____________
> Verification:
>
>
http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld
>
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> and poet
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