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Bud Dwyer?
Fra : Kim2000


Dato : 17-07-06 21:12

En kammerat sendte et link til denne mands offentlige selvmord. Jeg
videregiver det ikke (og har også sendt en særdeles kraftig
utilfredshedsytring til kammeraten), men han kan ikke fortælle hvem han var.
På nettet kan jeg kun finde reklamer for bøger om ham, men ingen der
fortæller hvem han var.

Politiker?
Selskabstømmer?
Forbryder?

Ringer det en klokken ved nogen?

mvh
Kim



 
 
John Degn Jessen (17-07-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : John Degn Jessen


Dato : 17-07-06 22:17

Kan det iøvrigt ikke også være hamrende ligegyldigt hvad eller hvem han er
??
een ting ligger helt fast verden blev en kujon fattigere

"Kim2000" <kim2000@surfmail.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:44bbef28$0$13997$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk...
> En kammerat sendte et link til denne mands offentlige selvmord. Jeg
> videregiver det ikke (og har også sendt en særdeles kraftig
> utilfredshedsytring til kammeraten), men han kan ikke fortælle hvem han
> var. På nettet kan jeg kun finde reklamer for bøger om ham, men ingen der
> fortæller hvem han var.
>
> Politiker?
> Selskabstømmer?
> Forbryder?
>
> Ringer det en klokken ved nogen?
>
> mvh
> Kim
>



Kim2000 (17-07-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Kim2000


Dato : 17-07-06 22:24


"John Degn Jessen" <johnxx@degn-xxjessen.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:44bbfe30$0$20256$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk...
> Kan det iøvrigt ikke også være hamrende ligegyldigt hvad eller hvem han er
> ??
> een ting ligger helt fast verden blev en kujon fattigere
>

????

Det svar hjalp jo så ikke rigtigt, så det eneste jeg ved om ham er at han
havde "politikerform" og politikertøj (hvilket er derfor jeg postede i denne
gruppe).

mvh
Kim



Jan Rasmussen (17-07-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Jan Rasmussen


Dato : 17-07-06 22:43

"Kim2000" <kim2000@surfmail.dk> skrev i en meddelelse news:44bbef28$0$13997$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk...
> En kammerat sendte et link til denne mands offentlige selvmord. Jeg videregiver det ikke (og har også sendt en særdeles kraftig
> utilfredshedsytring til kammeraten), men han kan ikke fortælle hvem han var. På nettet kan jeg kun finde reklamer for bøger om
> ham, men ingen der fortæller hvem han var.
>
> Politiker?
> Selskabstømmer?
> Forbryder?
>
> Ringer det en klokken ved nogen?
>

Jeg fatter ikke rigtigt meningen med indlæget,,,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer


Jan Rasmussen


Career
A Republican, Dwyer served as a member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives from 1965 to 1970, the Pennsylvania Senate from
1970 to 1980, and as state treasurer from 1980 until his death. He graduated from Allegheny College in Meadville, Pennsylvania. He
went on to get his master's degree in education and taught social studies and coached football at Cambridge Springs High School.

Controversy and conviction
During the early 1980s, employees of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania overpaid millions of dollars in FICA taxes. As a result, the
Commonwealth began requesting bids for the task of calculating refunds to each employee.
One firm, California-based Computer Technology Associates, was owned by a Harrisburg, Pennsylvania native, John Torquato Jr..
Torquato used his Harrisburg-area connections and a series of bribes to obtain the contract, worth $4.6 million. An anonymous memo
then reached the governor's office, describing the bribes that had taken place.

In late 1986, Dwyer was charged as having agreed to accept a related kickback of $300,000. Dwyer never actually received any money.
A plea bargain was made for Torquato and Dauphin County Republican Party Chairman William Smith (Torquato's attorney) as well as
Smith's wife, which required them to testify against Dwyer. This coupled with the government's refusal to name unindicted
co-conspirators in the case, made it difficult for Dwyer to defend himself, though the unindicted co-conspirators are believed to
have been Republican staffers who ran the Dauphin County Republican Party. During this time, the district's United States Attorney
offered Dwyer a plea bargain that carried a five year maximum sentence in exchange for a one-count guilty plea, resignation, and
cooperation in the investigation.[1] Dwyer refused the offer, and was later convicted but continued to vehemently protest his
innocence. Under state law, Dwyer would continue to serve as state treasurer until his sentencing of possibly up to 55 years in
prison and a fine of $300,000.

Public suicide
On January 22, 1987, the day before his sentencing, Dwyer called a press conference to "provide an update on the situation." Many
expected Dwyer to announce his resignation from office.
At the conference, an agitated and nervous Dwyer once again professed his innocence, and declared that he would not resign as state
treasurer. Those attending would hear his final words:
"I thank the good Lord for giving me 47 years of exciting challenges, stimulating experiences, many happy occasions, and, most of
all, the finest wife and children any man could ever desire.
"Now my life has changed, for no apparent reason. People who call and write are exasperated and feel helpless. They know I'm
innocent and want to help. But in this nation, the world's greatest democracy, there is nothing they can do to prevent me from being
punished for a crime they know I did not commit. Some who have called have said that I am a modern day Job.
"Judge Muir is also noted for his medieval sentences. I face a maximum sentence of 55 years in prison and a $300,000 fine for being
innocent. Judge Muir has already told the press that he, quote, 'felt invigorated' when we were found guilty, and that he plans to
imprison me as a deterrent to other public officials. But it wouldn't be a deterrent because every public official who knows me
knows that I am innocent - it wouldn't be a legitimate punishment because I've done nothing wrong. Since I'm a victim of political
persecution, my prison would simply be an American gulag.
"I ask those that believe in me to continue to extend friendship and prayer to my family, to work untiringly for the creation of a
true justice system here in the United States, and to press on with the efforts to vindicate me, so that my family and their future
families are not tainted by this injustice that has been perpetrated on me.
"We were confident that right and truth would prevail, and I would be acquitted and we would devote the rest of our lives working to
create a justice system here in the United States. The guilty verdict has strengthened that resolve. But as we've discussed our
plans to expose the warts of our legal system, people have said, 'why bother,' 'no one cares,' 'you'll look foolish,' '60 Minutes,
20/20, the American Civil Liberties Union, Jack Anderson and others have been publicizing cases like yours for years, and it doesn't
bother anyone'..."
At this point Dwyer stopped with his prepared text and called to three of his staffers, giving each an envelope. One contained a
suicide note to his wife, a second was an organ donor card and other related materials, and a third was a letter to Pennsylvania
Governor Bob Casey, who had been inaugurated just two days before.
After handing out the envelopes, Dwyer opened a fourth large manila envelope and withdrew a .357 Magnum revolver, advising those in
the crowd to "Please leave the room if this will offend you." Those in attendance cried out to Dwyer, pleading with him to put the
gun down. Some tried to approach him. "Stay away, this thing will hurt someone," he warned.[2] Those were his final words. Amid the
cry of "Budd, Budd, Budd," Dwyer put the gun barrel into his mouth, pulled the trigger, and collapsed on the floor, blood streaming
from his head and nose, in front of five live television news cameras. Dwyer was pronounced dead at the scene at 11:31 am.[3]
[edit]Aftermath
A number of television stations throughout Pennsylvania carried the press conference live via feed from one of the five news cameras
present, airing Dwyer's suicide before a mid-day audience without the chance of editing. Due to a major snowstorm throughout
Pennsylvania that day, many home-bound school-aged children witnessed the suicide live on television. Over the next several hours,
however, news editors had to decide whether to air the graphic images, or to edit the footage for evening news telecasts. Dwyer's
case has become a favorite of journalism professors to demonstrate that news editors, especially in the medium of television, must
be prepared to make instant decisions, weighing both psychological impact on viewers and the need to compete with other media
outlets.
In the end, many stations, including WCAU, aired the footage up to a point just prior to the shooting. Others, including
Pennsylvania's Group W stations KYW-TV and KDKA-TV, aired no footage at all; this despite the fact that Group W had a camera set up
at the news conference. Only a handful aired the entire press conference unedited. WPVI-TV in Philadelphia was one station that
chose to re-broadcast the suicide footage in full on their 5 p.m. and 6 p.m. Action News broadcasts without warning to viewers. That
station's broadcast is a source for copies circulating on the Internet. WPXI-TV in Pittsburgh is reported by the Associated Press to
have broadcast the footage uncensored on an early newscast. In explaining the decision to air, WPXI news operations manager By
Williams said, "It's an important event" about an "important man." Williams opted not to air the footage in the evening newscasts,
explaining, "Everyone knows by then that he did it. There are children out of school."
The suicide also changed Associated Press photo practices. At the time, the AP had its photographers shoot most photos in black and
white, since the film was cheaper and the photos took less time to transmit. (Also, most newspapers still had black-and-white front
pages at the time.) Color film would be issued only to photographers expected to be getting the top photos for national news that
day. Since this news conference was expected to be of little interest outside Pennsylvania, black-and-white film was used. Once it
turned into a major worldwide story, the AP got requests for color photos. After that, the AP promptly switched to taking all photos
in color. (Most photos were still transmitted in black and white until the transmission technology improved to a point when color
photos didn't cause delays.)
Since Dwyer died in office before being removed upon sentencing, his widow Joanne was able to collect full survivor benefits
totalling over $1.28 million. A spokesman for Dwyer, immediately after the suicide, suggested Dwyer may have killed himself to
retain the state-provided pension for his household, which had been ruined by legal defense costs.[4]
Dwyer's legal struggles may have ended with his death, yet a fascination with his suicide goes on to this day. Copies of the footage
continue to circulate via the Internet and have appeared in various films, including the Faces of Death series and Michael Moore's
Bowling for Columbine.
Dwyer is buried in Blooming Valley Cemetery in Blooming Valley, PA.
[edit]Pop culture
During the late 1980s, college students at various Pennsylvania universities would pass among themselves coins with holes drilled
out of the center, referred to as a "Budd Dwyer Commemorative."
In 2005, comedian Norm MacDonald opened the premiere of his show on Comedy Central, "Back to Norm," with a sketch featuring himself
committing suicide during a press conference, mimicking Dwyer's comments.
The Kidd Chris Show occasionally has a caller going by the name of "Budd Dwyer" who comments on topical news (most recently Terrell
Owens moving to the Dallas Cowboys) by suggesting the person with the gun should bring it in a paper bag, put it in his/her mouth
and pull the trigger. The calls end with the caller shooting himself.
During a brief montage in Michael Moore's 2002 film Bowling for Columbine there is footage showing Dwyer's suicide.
For a time there was a website called "The Budd Dwyer Suicide Fan Club" (now defunct) that would mail a fan t-shirt to any reader
who sent in a photo of himself with a gun to his head.
The famous series of Gonzo/Death Flicks called "Faces of Death" actually has the entire press conference uncut as one of the stories
in the 5th installment of the series.
Bill Bryson's 1989 travel novel The Lost Continent features the joke "What's the difference between Bud Dwyer and a Bud Lite?
Answer: A Bud Lite has a head on it."
[edit]In music
In 1988, Steve Albini's band Rapeman released an EP called "Budd", addressing Dwyer's suicide directly.
Californian experimental metal band Neurosis used an image of Dwyer's suicide for the cover of their 1988 debut album "Pain of
Mind".
In 1990, the electronic band Skinny Puppy used footage of Dwyer's suicide for the backing film during the "Too Dark Park" tour for
their closing song, Reclamation.
In 1992, the multimedia Industrial/Techno band Emergency Broadcast Network (EBN) released a videotape entitled "Commercial
Entertainment Product" that included their video "Get Down! Get Down!" The video included brief clips of Dwyer's shouts of "This
will hurt someone!" and "No! No! Don't! Don't!"
In 1994, the Industrial band Dead World recorded a song entitled, "This will hurt someone," which uses sound clips of Dywer's
suicide, "This will hurt someone!" is looped throughout the song along with sounds of people screaming and an aide of Dwyer saying,
"Someone, call the ambulance!"
In 1995, the rock band Filter had a hit with the song "Hey Man, Nice Shot", which, although not explicitly mentioning Dwyer, was
"inspired" by Dwyer's suicide, according to band members.
In 1997 Dutch punk band Dandruff!! recorded a song entitled, 'The Budd Dwyer Show,' which can be found on their album 'SixEQUJFive'.
The song is not specifically about Dwyer, but includes darkly comical descriptions of people and objects about to meet their demise.
In 1999 Canadian hardcore band The Swarm released their Old Blue Eyes is Dead EP, which kicks off with a soundclip of the Budd Dwyer
suicide.
The West Chester, Pennsylvania rock band Camp Kill Yourself, or CKY for short, used a drawing of Budd Dwyer's suicide for the cover
art of their first full-length album.
Canadian tech metal band Ion Dissonance released a demo titled ".357," a Budd Dwyer reference. They also have a song titled, "The
Budd Dwyer Effect." Excerpt from the song's lyrics: "it takes guts and a gun, just like in Budd Dwyer's little surprise."
Rock band Faith No More recorded a song entitled, 'The World Is Yours,' which can be found on their greatest hits compilation, 'Who
Cares A Lot,' released in 1998. In it, lead singer Mike Patton continues to sing the phrase, 'This will hurt someone,' which of
course were Budd Dwyer's last words. Also, in the bridge, the audio of Budd Dwyer's suicide is sampled into the song.
The Marilyn Manson song "Get Your Gunn", which appears on Portrait Of An American Family contains samples of Budd Dwyer saying "This
will hurt someone".
Death rapper Necro sampled the audio of Dwyer's suicide on the track "You did it" which appears on the album The Pre-Fix For Death.
In the same track, he parodies Vanilla Ice's "Check out the hook while my D.J. revolves it" by singing "Check out the hook, Budd
Dwyer with a revolver".
Mr. Yukk and the Poison Kontrol, a now defunct punk band from Northeast Ohio, recorded the song "Budd Dwyer" for their album
Pretending to Care.
In 2005, New Hampshire hardcore band The Hour used an image of Budd Dwyer (during the seconds before he pulled the trigger) as a
background for a show flyer.
On their 2005 album, Album Minus Band, electronic-influenced ska-punk band, Bomb the Music Industry! made a reference to the Budd
Dwyer suicide with their song "Blow Your Brains Out on Live TV!!!."
In 2006, the underground rap duo Brain Trauma released their album "The Budd Dwyer Effect".



Alucard (17-07-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Alucard


Dato : 17-07-06 22:46

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:12:24 +0200, "Kim2000" <kim2000@surfmail.dk>
wrote:

>En kammerat sendte et link til denne mands offentlige selvmord. Jeg
>videregiver det ikke (og har også sendt en særdeles kraftig
>utilfredshedsytring til kammeraten), men han kan ikke fortælle hvem han var.
>På nettet kan jeg kun finde reklamer for bøger om ham, men ingen der
>fortæller hvem han var.
>
>Politiker?
>Selskabstømmer?
>Forbryder?
>
>Ringer det en klokken ved nogen?

Der står lidt om ham her: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budd_Dwyer

@ (17-07-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : @


Dato : 17-07-06 22:50

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:12:24 +0200, "Kim2000" <kim2000@surfmail.dk>
wrote:

>En kammerat sendte et link til denne mands offentlige selvmord. Jeg
>videregiver det ikke (og har også sendt en særdeles kraftig
>utilfredshedsytring til kammeraten), men han kan ikke fortælle hvem han var.
>På nettet kan jeg kun finde reklamer for bøger om ham, men ingen der
>fortæller hvem han var.
>
>Politiker?

ja

>Selskabstømmer?
>Forbryder?
>

men det han blev kendt for var sit selvmord der blev filmet



ca. 30 sekunders Googeling, DET KUNNE DU SGU GODT SELV HAVE GJORT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer
Robert Budd Dwyer (November 21, 1939 – January 22, 1987), better known
as R. Budd Dwyer, was an American politician born in St. Charles,
Missouri. Dwyer is best known for his televised suicide.


--
Blasfemilove bør afskaffes. Det ville være en sær gud,
som har behov for at blive beskyttet af loven
/Salman Rushdie/

Kim2000 (17-07-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Kim2000


Dato : 17-07-06 22:59


"@" <1@invalid.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:8b1ob25v4u0neus8opt2j5uac4vvbbkius@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:12:24 +0200, "Kim2000" <kim2000@surfmail.dk>
> wrote:
>
>>En kammerat sendte et link til denne mands offentlige selvmord. Jeg
>>videregiver det ikke (og har også sendt en særdeles kraftig
>>utilfredshedsytring til kammeraten), men han kan ikke fortælle hvem han
>>var.
>>På nettet kan jeg kun finde reklamer for bøger om ham, men ingen der
>>fortæller hvem han var.
>>
>>Politiker?
>
> ja
>
>>Selskabstømmer?
>>Forbryder?
>>
>
> men det han blev kendt for var sit selvmord der blev filmet
>
>
>
> ca. 30 sekunders Googeling, DET KUNNE DU SGU GODT SELV HAVE GJORT
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer
> Robert Budd Dwyer (November 21, 1939 - January 22, 1987), better known
> as R. Budd Dwyer, was an American politician born in St. Charles,
> Missouri. Dwyer is best known for his televised suicide.
>

Jeg synes godt nok ikke jeg fandt en ski'. Men nu har jeg da smidt wikipedia
ind på fortrukne.

mvh
Kim



Michael Kirkegaard (18-07-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Michael Kirkegaard


Dato : 18-07-06 09:08


"Kim2000" <kim2000@surfmail.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:44bbef28$0$13997$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk...
> En kammerat sendte et link til denne mands offentlige selvmord. Jeg
> videregiver det ikke (og har også sendt en særdeles kraftig
> utilfredshedsytring til kammeraten), men han kan ikke fortælle hvem han
> var. På nettet kan jeg kun finde reklamer for bøger om ham, men ingen der
> fortæller hvem han var.
>
> Politiker?
> Selskabstømmer?
> Forbryder?
>
>

Så lige klippet....
Sikke en idiot, medieluder til det sidste..

Noget kunne tyde på at Peter Skaarup havde en onkel i USA....

Michael



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