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Is Welfare Part of Capitalism?
Fra : hateenvyvermins@yaho~


Dato : 05-05-06 18:29

This article is dedicated to:

A man I met, with most of his body heavily burned, simply because he
was a Chinese during the 1998 May Riot in Indonesia.
Lots of capitalists that are slaughtered during the cultural evolution.
Ten thousands of peaceful smugglers that are massacred in Banda island
by the Dutch for conducting peaceful spice trade and all that are
similar to them.
All minority groups and individuals that face discrimination, even
genocide, for economically contributing too much for their society.
All customers that have to pay higher products due to protection of
tariff and trades.
Productive people that are fined with income tax for the victimless
crime of making honest money.
Smart students that are slowed down so not to move too fast.
Industries that do not get subsidy, or even banned to protect
unproductive industry and laborers that earn much less due to such
restrictions.
Poor starving people that could have been rich had their countries
choose to embrace free market.
Women and males that are trapped in unhappy marriage which they have a
hard time getting out.
Women and children that have lots of their best choices taken under the
pretext of protection.
Immigrants and refuges.
Is welfare part of capitalism?

In short, no. In consensually, punishing the productive through income
tax to reward parasitic behavior is the biggest affront against the
principle of free market. In fact, from many governments intervention
in economy, the one that proponents of free market often oppose the
most is welfare.

However, when we look further, capitalism and welfare is not really
total opposites. Most importantly, properly done, a straight forward
welfare program can cause less market distortion, and hence an
efficient replacement to buy votes from losers, than farm subsidies,
public schools, minimum wage, trades restrictions, tariffs, and sex
laws. If it's done by taxing wealth, rather than income, the amount of
market distortion can be minimized further.

Welfare is also cheap. It'll cost $5000/year to a welfare recipient
in USA, for example. However, we need to remember that the
recipients' lifestyle worth only $500. The other $4500 goes to
implicit welfare due to higher living costs. That implicit welfare
includes minimum wage, immigrations laws, and food subsidy, or
protections.

If somehow a straight forward explicit welfare program can replace all
relatively more evil governments' interventions, then capitalists are
probably better of not opposing welfare so much. Even Milton Friedman
supports schemes called guaranteed minimum income, which is like
welfare but with much less market distortion.

That's not where the similarity ends. One of the main creeds of
capitalism is that consent and competition should be preferred over
force. Without that consent, anyone can simply make us choose to make
our self worst of under the pretext that it is for our own good. In
fact, most laws against consensual acts can be traced down to
protection of some disgruntled competitors often done under the pretext
of the consenting parties' own good.

Anti prostitution and anti polygamy laws, for example, is there to
ration females to poor dumb males under the pretext of protecting the
consenting women. Of course, all natural resources tend to be rationed
somewhat proportional to ones' voting power. And that does explain
why democracy and anti polygamy laws go hand in hand too. One man one
vote soon leads to one man one wife.

Well, at least Matt Ridley agrees with me and he's a well known
mainstream scientific researchers. I guess that's also why so many
uncompetitive people want to ensure that evolution theory is not taught
in school. You can also read a famous psikiatrist book, "The road less
traveled," you'll see that life long monogamous marriage is just a trap
to prevent highly desirable people from being available to those who
they want more, and romance is just the lure to that trap.

On the women side, anti pornography laws is really meant to prevent
highly desirable women from advertising her assets and hence protecting
less pretty women from the higher industry standard a public display of
superior desirability might cause. Countries that embrace porn tend to
have prettier women. Where did all the unsexy ones go? They're all
shifting out of the gene pool, and hence are doing their best to oppose
porn preaching religious doctrines that men should judge women based on
any features but beauty, which they can't offer.

Another issue is consent. Welfare program is not consensual; however,
it's relatively more consensual then civil war. In ancient time, when
we have different ideological opinions, we end up killing each other to
proof who are "right." The Catholic would kill the Gnostic, the
Sunni would kill the Shiah. One King would kill the other. A younger
prince will argue that the older prince is demon. Might makes right.

Such differences of opinions are of course solved with war, which is a
very cost inefficient way to know who're "right." However it does
work in some subjective practical sense. If we look in the past and try
to figure out whether the Gnostic or the Catholic is the one that's
heretical or "right" respectively, we need only to see who won. The
Gnostics are slaughtered, so they must be the heretic, or do they? At
least I bet there are way more people in the world that think that way
than the other way around, excluding me actually.

It doesn't matter how many books many institutionalized religions
burned, how much restrictions of freedom of speech and irrationality
they embraced, how many witnesses they snuffed outs and all other
techniques that would not have stand the scrutiny of a peer reviewed
scientific journal, or even a reasonable jury in the court of law. Too
many people don't believe who are right and reasonable, they believe
who are mighty. Right or wrong, the win will always become right
anyway.

Now, under democratic context, we don't kill those who oppose us,
rather we try to persuade enough people to join our cause. How do we
persuade them? By money of course. Welfare program is then a reasonably
cost efficient method to buy votes.

When too many people are on a side, we will sort of know that going to
war will hurt the other side; hence we comply anyway with the whim of
majority avoiding the costly alternatives. While not ideal, this is
indeed how right and wrong is really decided, proper assessments of
each sides' bargaining position and mutually cherished compromised line
of war, plus a bunch of lies covering what's going on to safe each
sides' face.

No matter how noble the purpose, lies and prejudices lead to
misunderstanding, that leads to more war. Hence, the best contribution
is simply to unmask all lies.

All in all, peaceful democracy is indeed a more cost efficient ways to
measure ones' bargaining position. While democracy often lead to
decisions opposites of freedom, like popularly supported victimless
crime, income tax, and welfare, it's indeed relatively more cost
efficient than civil war.

That's not when the coherency end. Various natural laws restrict
various possible political outcomes. We can't expect a stone will fly
to the sky when we drop it as much as we cannot expect a human to be
generally unselfish. If we want to kill our enemies, we'll do well
dropping a big stone on top of our enemies head rather than dropping
the stone on top of our own head expecting the stone to somewhat
magically fly to the enemies head.

The same way, we can't demand market distortion and expect that the
best and brightest among us to still magically be a nice tax payer
rather than dictators and corruptors. In a country where selling porn
or building a good franchise chain is more difficult and less lucrative
than becoming a dictator, guess what the smart would end up doing? Ask
Saddam.

If we want rich and prosperous countries, we must know that it will and
only will happen when we properly align individuals' interests with
productivity.

Such coherency tends to make certain things come in package with
another. We can expect that moving electric field will induce magnetic
field. The same way, in life, we observe similar things. Communism and
socialism, for example, always come in package with dictatorship and
corruptions when smart people realize that being dictators pay more
than building a business empire.

To the opposite capitalistic countries comes in package with softer
deals for losers, such as, guess what, welfare.

We know from our economic classes that free market capitalism brings
prosperity within market mechanism. However, it turns out that the
prosperity that free market brings also profit the less successful
beyond market mechanism. Capitalism and the prosperity that come with
it tend to facilitate ideological changes in ways that benefit the less
successful. One such ideological change is the popular support for
losers' benefits. One such benefit is, guess what, welfare.

The most obvious samples of such ideological shifts the free market
bring are the elimination of slavery in US. What happened? As usual,
the northern part of America is an industrial country. At that time,
steel industries are relatively more modern than the farming industry.
Higher tech industry increase labors' productivity. When labor's
productivity goes up, entrepreneurs will want to hire as many workers
as possible. Hence, labors' salary will go up. This will kill of
industries with less labor's productivity. At the end, the marginal
productivity of labors in the least productive industry will go up.
That value is labors' salary.

Under competitive equilibrium, the more productive and efficient a
person is, the more he benefits everyone in the chain of productivity
except those similar to him. Hence, an entrepreneurs coming up with
ways to improve labors' productivity would benefit everyone,
including workers and consumers, at the expense of other entrepreneurs
and capitalists. Read that Karl Marx!

Then what? When labors' salary goes up, obviously labors will move to
the employers that pay them higher. Hence, farm labors in the south
want to move to the north. They can't do so legally though because
they were slaves. Hence, the northern capitalists in US want to free
slaves so they can hire more workers. And then the southern capitalists
in US want to keep slavery. This then results in war. The bigger the
labors' productivity, the more intensive capitalists have to free
slaves. The more supporters there will be on a cause the more likely
the cause won. Hence, slaves were freed.

Unfortunately, people still want to help losers and buy votes from
those who are too expensive and too stubborn to switch. That explains
why the farms in US gets subsidy.

If losing means not as successful as the other, then there will always
be losers. However, we see how free market shifts the worlds' system
in ways that benefits the losers too. Unlike the commies' propaganda,
capitalism does not cause or even enlarge disparity of wealth.
Capitalism only changes the way such disparity are earned to the
benefits of all.

At the end of the warring states period in China, the king of Chin,
Shih Huang Ti, and his prime minister, Li Si were the winner. Within
one generation they have all their family slaughtered. If that's what
winning means, what did losing means in pre-capitalistic countries? In
ancient time, losing meant having all the males slaughtered, enslaved,
or castrated and all the females raped and winning means risking your
whole family slaughtered by rebels. In socialists countries the rich
are corruptors and dictators that slice each other throats while the
poor are starving.

Now, thanks to the prosperity only free market can bring, losing means
they can leave on welfare, with plenty of chance to climb back and
proof their worth, like J. K. Rowling. Now, slaves are so free and
highly paid thanks to increase in labors' productivity. In fact, when
slave jobs are moving to China under globalization, slaves in US
refused to be emancipated and want to keep their slave jobs in US
rather than evolving into entrepreneurs. So, much for the land of the
free and the place of the brave. Some people don't mind dying for
what they believe in but are too scared to start a business. Evolutions
will fix that I guess.

Free market gives abundances to everyone. The benefits the free market
brings benefit those less capable from being successful not only within
the system but also through non market mechanism, like the ending of
slavery and the start of reverse slavery we call welfare. But how do
those really work? Is there a general principle?

Each of us is greedy and selfish that we want as many as possible for
us. Humans' greed and selfishness is an undisputable scientific
facts, as sure as the sun rise in the east, as sure as a stone will
fall to the ground pulled by gravity. We're not just greedy and
selfish. Greed and selfishness doesn't explain all the war,
suffering, and poverty we face.

In fact, greed is good. Properly aligned, under free market, the
greatest among us shall be the one productively providing the best
service to the most customers. Blessed be the productive because
they'll be rich. This will encourage higher and higher standard of
living that we are currently enjoying.

Free market allows those who serve more to grow richer. To those who
have more profit, to those more capital are given. Even kingdom of
heaven don't mind using this nice positive feedback effect. Who needs
new deals to break up companies?

Also, women prefer the rich. The next time you watch soap opera, make
sure it's made in some country with the highest IQ in the world, like
Hong Kong.

Free sex means richer males will consensually attract and mate with
more women producing more kids. That's the whole point of getting
rich by the way. Duh?

In fact, that's what being a living human male is all about:

1. Gain control ship of as much money or power as possible.

2. Attract or in anyway acquire as many females as possible.

3. Make kids.

4. Use that kids as tools to make grand children.

You bet it's right because it's science. Of course, they don't teach
this important fact in biology class because government interfere in
education.

Hence, when we're free, without genocide, without war, even with
humanitarians aids given to appease enemies, the meek will indeed
inherit the earth.

More than greedy and selfish, some humans are simply not humans because
they embrace the root of all evil, envy. That explains why we have so
many laws against mutually beneficial consensual acts and governments
regulations to protect us from our own choices. The truth is, all those
laws and restrictions are more often not there to protect stupid people
from making mistakes. All such laws are there to prevent the smart from
making the right choices.

That's why, for example, every body has to move equally slowly in
school, to prevent the smart from moving faster. That's why various
reproductive techniques are politically incorrect proportional to the
expected quality of genetic material that will be duplicated. In
particular, life long monogamous marriage, free sex, prostitution,
polygamy, and cloning are sequences that both have increasingly
expected value of genetic quality outcome and politically
incorrectness.

In Europe and China, the smart monks are encouraged not to get married.
When some minority groups don't buy the bullshit and hence greatly
improving their productively earned wealth and genetic quality, such
minority groups somehow become victims of genocide.

Life is like a real time strategy games. That means when we're not at
war, we're in a race. That's simply how we evolve. Morality,
religions, and ideologies, are stuffs created by really smart people to
persuade us to run backward.

Peace means we're in a race. Freedom means we are in a competition.
Some people just don't want to compete. Hence, they craft lies and
prejudices against those who are in front preventing progress to
prosperity.

I'll tell you the scientific truth. It's from the fruit we knows
the tree. Anyone opposing free trades and globalization is more evil
than Hitler or Nazi. If only Japan and German could have acquired
natural resources through consensual peaceful trade, Nazism wouldn't
have been popular there and Hitler wouldn't have risen to power. With
his mass hypnotic skills, he may have ended up as seminar speaker I
guess.

If only those who had wanted to incite the Second World War see all the
miracles and prosperity the free market brings, they would have
repented and embrace free market. Yet, after all the prosperity and
wealth the free market is bringing to all of us, still many people
choose to oppose competition, and hence, miss-properly align our
interests from productivity. That is the cause of all evil in the
world.

All causes opposing free market can be negotiated and appeased.
However, if the very thing that a group of people want to prevent is
the success of the others, then the situation is pretty much kill or be
killed zero sum game.

How does such situation usually end up? What would be our optimum
solutions for such situation?

Under normal circumstances, an optimum solution of any business
decisions is a solution where the marginal revenue equals to the
marginal costs. Hence, in a zero sum game, each party will try to
maximize its benefit to that point. Sometimes, the marginal costs have
a spike. There is a certain point where increasing a resources
allocation beyond a certain point will create adverse costs. For
example, increasing the number of labors will increase revenue.

After a certain point, increasing one additional labor will mean buying
a new machine or building a new factory. We may end up choosing to do
it, we may not. In either case, discretions are the better part of the
valor when it comes to that line.

The same way, in most countries, each of us can increase our profits
using property we own or consensually rent. When we maximize our profit
that way, the public will, ideally and some times truly, not interfere,
and defend us from being prevented to enjoy our "rights" by others.
However, when we start using others' property to maximize our gain,
say by stealing, public opinions may shift from protecting us to
against us.

Hence, the choice whether we should steal or not depends on the extra
costs of crossing the politically correctness line of war. If a person
sees that the potential gain justifies the increase costs of public
support shifts, he'll still steal and make a great career out of it.
Otherwise he'll stop stealing while coming up with a pretext to
justify his cowardly decisions, such as morality.

But what do the people choose their reaction to a specific act like
stealing? They do so based on their sense of fairness, justice, and
right-wrong discernment. How do people get that sense? From ideology.
The ideology, religions, or whatever, then decides the line of war
where the rest of us should consider before crossing. But how does the
line gets drawn? By estimates of bargaining position.

Let's examine an example. Is the King (or Queen?) of England the King
of France? Don't know. How do we know? In the beginning, a ruling
class from France went to England and become king of England. Then they
lost control of France. Hence, king of England wanted to take back the
controls they have lost. Well, such conflicts are solved by war. In
this particular case, the war lasted 100 years.

The British attacked France and successfully route knights with long
bows. Then, the Frances stroke back driving the British back to their
isolated islands. However, the France cannot move further and go all
the way to attack British because of the Strait of Dover separating the
two nations. Finally both sides realized that the straits somehow
became the sacred line of war. It's not auspicious to cross the line
of war for either side. The France, having more army and larger
population would beat up the British on land, and the British being
stronger at sea can always repulsed France sea invasion. Hence, we got
peace.

Such natural separators like straits and mountains explain why
Europeans are divided into many different countries. The Chinese, not
having that natural line of war, end up getting united all the time.

Now, let's get back to the question whether welfare is part of
capitalism. If all of us have just enough food, and some people don't
work, what would we end up doing to those who are not productive?

Humans' basic instincts and preferences lead to gene pool survival.
When food is scarce, such as when the people demand centralized
planning, it would serve ones' gene pool survival to slaughter the
parasites rather than sharing food to them. That's because sharing
food to those who do not earn it means starving ones own self. In fact,
humans will kill each other to literally eat each other when food is
scarce. Such is what happened in China and Rusia when centralized
planning, governments' intervention in economy, and prejudices
against successful capitalists became the norm.

However, when food and money are abundance, such as when the people
embrace free market, fighting the parasites might cause more gene pool
survival lost than feeding them. On the other hand, simply giving and
yielding toward threaten will motivate people to keep pushing us
around. Moreover, giving in to those who can use force against us will
motivate countries to build arms rather than say, better video games.

Hence, one possible strategy to minimize open war while still properly
aligning ones interest with other individuals around them is to give to
those who ask nicely and ask less. As free market brings a lot of
abundance, those who are needy can be appeased much more cheaply than
those who are envy, and hence, we got welfare program.

To be frank, I'd rather see the unproductive people have bigger TV
rather than letting them make more kids. It's more humane, and
cheaper. Guess what? Most people that know they're not very capable
either would rather have that too.

Back to the France vs British. If only both sides have realized the
true bargaining positions of each, they wouldn't have to resort to
such expensive 100 years war right? The thing is, the 100 years war are
the most credible and accurate ways to measure ones' bargaining
position. War shows which one is stronger, and hence leads to a mutual
understanding of where the line of war might be.

If only we can wave our gun and scare the enemies, it'll be great.
However, the only threats that are credible are those actually done.

How do we know a cause's bargaining position? Democracy might give
some light by counting the number of those who are in favor or against
what we consider lesser evil. However, number counting can be
deceiving. We hold this truth with plenty of evidences, that humans are
inherently different.

We have difference capability and preferences, and hence different
choices and outcome. It's useless to lay net in front of anything
with wings. Those who are genetically predestined to be successful will
get rich anyway whether through honest capitalistic means or through
dictatorship.

Those who are small in numbers can hence be quite strong. Preventing
the smart from making money honestly will then turn them into
corruptors and dictators. When the Chileans demand to prosecute their
entrepreneurs, they end up getting a dictator, the way any country that
demand slavery over freedom deserves. Fortunately, Pinochet are
relatively benign compared to others dictator and embrace free market
giving the miraculous prosperity that the Chilean now enjoy.

Now, US government arrested his daughter for a crime of tax evasion. An
act that wouldn't have been a crime if making honest money is free.
The miracle of Chili becomes the model of China's moving to free
market. It also helps to end communism all over the world peacefully.
If capitalists fail to show thanks to Pinochet family, I don't know
what would happen to all of us.

So, beyond number counting, the more accurate ways are then through
skirmishes. When people cross the public's opinion line of war and we
don't strike back, the line of war will shift against the coward by
precedence. By fighting back, we'll then have a more accurate
knowledge of which one the public would agree with.

Hence, it's very important to retaliate to what others do to us,
either good or bad. It's a pleasure to serve my friends, it's also
a pleasure to wipe out envy enemies that are on our ways, should my
friends wish or don't mind.

When a fraudster tricks my brother over $3,900, my main concern is not
to get my money back. My main concern is to get the fraudster to jail
even if that will costs far more money than the $3,900. When a thief
steals my money on 2001, my concern is also not to get my property
back. What's just is to encourage the whole world to post any thieves
conviction records on the net to prevent further larcenies.

It makes me wonder though. Why people consider it cruel to damage a
thief or a fraudster' reputation? The mere acts of making honest
money are punishable by income tax. When Everett O. Lasher makes an
argument in court, the case leads to $5000 fine, and understandably, a
suicide. The mere acts of successfully fending of ones' home from
thieves lead to a life long jail term for Tony Martin. Thousands would
march against WTO demanding harsh laws to punish those exercising
consensual trades. In Iran, the mere acts of switching religions can
lead to death penalty.

In Indonesia, new laws are being drafted giving years in prison for
kissing in public. Of course, public rape during May riot are still far
from being punished.

This while murderers of Vincent Chin went free without jail term.
Thousands would march to end death penalty against murderers. In
Indonesia, religious fundamentalists can come to a house and destroy
properties from houses providing consensual entertainment with polices
watching. Those people often get away or lightly punish.

If consensual productive acts are punished while damaging inconsensual
forces are not, soon, all highly productive people would end up in gas
chamber after the next Cultural Revolution, or what ever. Those who are
left are those smart enough to be dictators enslaving the rest of us.

Prejudices reminds me of an envy old hag that's so determined to ruin
my reputation for being friendly to her and her friends, after her own
friendly communication. I never intended to fraud anyone or steal her
money yet I got my reputation ruined. I am very disappointed to see
that there are people in the world that want to bring me down more than
they want to bring down a thief.

I have tried to resolve the issue privately by suggesting to that thing
that she's really not important enough for anyone to pretend to be her
friend. Moreover, I didn't need her as a friend. All this was just a
damage-less misunderstanding caused by her own friendly communication
which I could simply publicly straighten out. At least, it used to be.

However, that vermin really wished to get the issue public telling lies
that she never communicated with me, possibly to boost that things'
feeling of importance her genes deny her. Well, if she got so mad over
a few friendly introductions, I can only wonder what that thing would
do when it finds out that her true envy natures are revealed to 55000
newsgroups several times. It'll happen again and again whenever I
feel like.

Hence, just look for "envy vermin" on the net to find out what's
really going on including what she said privatedly. Let the public
decide who are more honest, rational, scientific, and straightforward.
Let the market decides which one are worthy and who are worthless.
It's a great mistake to ever consider such thing as a friend, a
mistake no body should do. It's her kind that turns people of from
making money productively.

Hopefully we can undermine public opinions against all form of envy
motivated lies and prejudices. At the end, we'll greatly weaken laws
against victimless crime and easily out compete all envy people out of
the gene pool. That'll ensure that the free fair market competition
would reign over war when all lies and prejudices against those more
successful are gone.

Now that being said, I want to move all jobs that can be done online to
Asia, especially, copy writers. Take advantage of the value difference
and leverage like hell is how we all make money in any system. Who's
with me?

Free market is all merciful and all compassionate. At the end, even
those that oppose free market will benefits from free trades.


 
 
Ivan V. Klattrup (05-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Ivan V. Klattrup


Dato : 05-05-06 18:33

hateenvyvermins@yahoo.com skrev:

><snip>

Det er hele hardwaren den er gal med, smid computeren til storskrald, den
er ikke mere værd.

--
Ivan V. Klattrup
http://www.klattrup.dk

Michael Lund Sørense~ (05-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Michael Lund Sørense~


Dato : 05-05-06 21:05

Ivan V. Klattrup wrote:
> hateenvyvermins@yahoo.com skrev:
>
>> <snip>
>
> Det er hele hardwaren den er gal med, smid computeren til storskrald,
> den er ikke mere værd.

Det giver forurening. Den skal afleveres på genbrugspladsen!

--
Hilsen

Michael Lund Sørensen
www.milux.dk
www.gromit.dk/dvd



Rudi Stegen (06-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Rudi Stegen


Dato : 06-05-06 00:13

Hej Michael Lund Sørensen, du skrev i dk.edb.hardware:

>> Det er hele hardwaren den er gal med, smid computeren til
>> storskrald, den er ikke mere værd.
>
> Det giver forurening. Den skal afleveres på genbrugspladsen!

Nu ved jeg selvfølgelig ikke, om Århus er speciel anderledes på
det område. Men sådanne ting er også storskrald,
<http://www.aarhuskommune.dk/view/aakv/borger/affald/ordninger/storskrald/view_col2_storskrald.emne?_page=301051>

Omend man selvfølgelig også selv kan aflevere den slags på en
genbrugsstation fremfor at lade renovationsselskabet køre det dertil.

--
Hygge fra Århus - Rudi
http://stegen.dk/pclinks1.htm

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