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<quote>Danish Editor Is Willing To Publish Holocaust Cartoons
February 8, 2006 11:11 a.m.

The Danish editor behind the publication of caricatures of the prophet
Muhammad that ignited deadly riots in the Muslim world said Wednesday
that he is trying to coordinate with an Iranian paper soliciting
cartoons on the Holocaust.

"My newspaper is trying to establish a contact with the Iranian
newspaper, and we would run the cartoons the same day as they publish
them," Flemming Rose said Wednesday in an interview on CNN's "American
Morning."

The Iranian newspaper Hamshahri said Tuesday that it would hold the
competition to test whether the West extends the principle of freedom
of expression to the Nazi genocide as it did to the caricatures of the
Prophet Muhammad.

Those cartoons were first published by Mr. Rose's newspaper
Jyllands-Posten in September. As Muslim protests mounted, numerous
European newspapers have reprinted them in recent days in the name of
free expression, provoking wider and angrier protests.

Mr. Rose, Jyllands-Posten's culture editor, told CNN he came up with
the idea after several local cases of self-censorship involving people
fearing reprisals from Muslims. "There was a story out there and we had
to cover it," Mr. Rose said. "We just chose to cover it in a different
way, according to the principal: Don't tell it, show it."

The drawings -- including one depicting the prophet wearing a turban
shaped as a bomb -- have touched a nerve in part because Islam is
interpreted to forbid any illustrations of the prophet Muhammad for
fear they could lead to idolatry.

"I do not regret it," Mr. Rose said. "I think it is like asking a rape
victim if she regrets wearing a short skirt at a discotheque Friday
night. In that sense, in our culture, if you're wearing a short skirt,
that does not necessarily mean you invite everybody to have sex with
you. As is the case with these cartoons, if you make a cartoon, make
fun of religion, make fun of religious figures, that does not imply
that you humiliate or denigrate or marginalize a religion."

The Iranian newspaper said its contest would be launched Monday and
co-sponsored by the House of Caricatures, a Tehran exhibition center
for cartoons. The paper and the cartoon center are owned by the Tehran
Municipality, which is dominated by allies of President Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad, well-known for his opposition to Israel.
Copyright © 2006 Associated Press</quote>

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The chief editor of Jyllandsposten has clearly said, that neither the
iranian holocaust cartoons, nor any other religious caricatures will be
published in his newspaper, and that the culture editor Flemming Rose had
not coordinated with the leadership of the newspaper.

Aksel

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"Aksel" <akseljDELETETHIS@pcwelt-premium.de> wrote in message
news:43eb3695$0$38722$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk...
> The chief editor of Jyllandsposten has clearly said, that neither the
> iranian holocaust cartoons, nor any other religious caricatures will be
> published in his newspaper, and that the culture editor Flemming Rose had
> not coordinated with the leadership of the newspaper.
>

If the radical muslims stop terrorizing the planet there is nothing left to
draw.

A.

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Who made the Moslems so radical the question now is who turned them on ?.

Kurt Knoll.

"Anneke.A" <andri591@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:43eb8e6e$0$2019$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...
>
> "Aksel" <akseljDELETETHIS@pcwelt-premium.de> wrote in message
> news:43eb3695$0$38722$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk...
>> The chief editor of Jyllandsposten has clearly said, that neither the
>> iranian holocaust cartoons, nor any other religious caricatures will be
>> published in his newspaper, and that the culture editor Flemming Rose had
>> not coordinated with the leadership of the newspaper.
>>
>
> If the radical muslims stop terrorizing the planet there is nothing left
> to
> draw.
>
> A.
>

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Schorsch <bartelq77@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The Danish editor behind the publication of caricatures of the prophet
> Muhammad that ignited deadly riots in the Muslim world said Wednesday
> that he is trying to coordinate with an Iranian paper soliciting
> cartoons on the Holocaust.
>
> "My newspaper is trying to establish a contact with the Iranian
> newspaper, and we would run the cartoons the same day as they publish
> them," Flemming Rose said Wednesday in an interview on CNN's "American
> Morning."

The Jutland Post is /not/ willing to publish these cartoons.
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk

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"Per Rønne" wrote:
>
> The Jutland Post is /not/ willing to publish these cartoons.

The Jutland Post (whatever that is) is willing to do whatever the editors
wants.

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Be Ka <yahoo@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> "Per Rønne" wrote:
> >
> > The Jutland Post is /not/ willing to publish these cartoons.
>
> The Jutland Post (whatever that is) is willing to do whatever the editors
> wants.

The Jutland Post [Danish name: Jyllands-Posten] is the newspaper which
published the 12 Mohammad caricatures [well, not all of them showed
him], and the editors are the ones that have decided /not/ to publish
the Iranian cartoons.
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk

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"Schorsch" <bartelq77@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139487467.031277.318760@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
<quote>Danish Editor Is Willing To Publish Holocaust Cartoons
February 8, 2006 11:11 a.m.

The Danish editor behind the publication of caricatures of the prophet
Muhammad that ignited deadly riots in the Muslim world said Wednesday
that he is trying to coordinate with an Iranian paper soliciting
cartoons on the Holocaust.

"My newspaper is trying to establish a contact with the Iranian
newspaper, and we would run the cartoons the same day as they publish
them," Flemming Rose said Wednesday in an interview on CNN's "American
Morning."
____________

I know of an Egyptian newspaper that published the cartoons on October 17th
2005. http://tinyurl.com/7uf5e
Its of no use. There are civilized muslims and there are barbarians hiding
behind their religion and trying to get us to hide behind the freedom of the
press. Well duh. No sale here.

A.

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Aksel wrote:
> The chief editor of Jyllandsposten has clearly said, that neither the
> iranian holocaust cartoons, nor any other religious caricatures will be
> published in his newspaper, and that the culture editor Flemming Rose had
> not coordinated with the leadership of the newspaper.
>
> Aksel

And what source do you know this from???
For what I posted there are several sources:
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=202652006
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/AntiSemi/7766.htm

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Schorsch <bartelq77@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Aksel wrote:
> > The chief editor of Jyllandsposten has clearly said, that neither the
> > iranian holocaust cartoons, nor any other religious caricatures will be
> > published in his newspaper, and that the culture editor Flemming Rose had
> > not coordinated with the leadership of the newspaper.

> And what source do you know this from???
> For what I posted there are several sources:
> http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=202652006
> http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/AntiSemi/7766.htm

And you seem to forget that there are Danes in this thread who can
listen to Danish radio broadcasts, watch Danish televion broadcasts and
read Danish newspapers.

Nevertheless, a link to The Jutland Post's English-language site will
suffice:

http://www.jp.dk/english_news/
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk

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"Schorsch" <bartelq77@yahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:1139499445.482552.66910@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Aksel wrote:
>> The chief editor of Jyllandsposten has clearly said, that neither the
>> iranian holocaust cartoons, nor any other religious caricatures will be
>> published in his newspaper, and that the culture editor Flemming Rose had
>> not coordinated with the leadership of the newspaper.
>>
>> Aksel
>
> And what source do you know this from???
> For what I posted there are several sources:

My source is the best possible, the front page of Jyllandsposten today.

Aksel

---

>
> And what source do you know this from???
> For what I posted there are several sources:
> http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=202652006
> http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/AntiSemi/7766.htm

The latest news is that ´that the culture editor Flemming Rose is sent on
"vacation"

Aksel

---

Scríobh "Aksel" <akseljDELETETHIS@pcwelt-premium.de>:
>
>
>>
>> And what source do you know this from???
>> For what I posted there are several sources:
>> http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=202652006
>> http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/AntiSemi/7766.htm
>
>The latest news is that ´that the culture editor Flemming Rose is sent on
>"vacation"

The suits don't get it, do they?

--
'Donegal: Up Here It's Different'
© Féachadóir

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>>The latest news is that ´that the culture editor Flemming Rose is sent on
>>>"vacation"
>
>
> The suits don't get it, do they?

I wonder if he's vacationing in the same place Salmon Rushdie is
vacationing?

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Per Rønne wrote:
> Schorsch <bartelq77@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Aksel wrote:
> > > The chief editor of Jyllandsposten has clearly said, that neither the
> > > iranian holocaust cartoons, nor any other religious caricatures will be
> > > published in his newspaper, and that the culture editor Flemming Rose had
> > > not coordinated with the leadership of the newspaper.
>
> > And what source do you know this from???
> > For what I posted there are several sources:
> > http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=202652006
> > http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/AntiSemi/7766.htm
>
> And you seem to forget that there are Danes in this thread who can
> listen to Danish radio broadcasts, watch Danish televion broadcasts and
> read Danish newspapers.
>
> Nevertheless, a link to The Jutland Post's English-language site will
> suffice:
>
> http://www.jp.dk/english_news/

Thanks!
I've seen it:
http://www.jp.dk/indland/artikel:aid=3548116/



> --
> Per Erik Rønne
> http://www.RQNNE.dk

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Schorsch wrote:

> <quote>Danish Editor Is Willing To Publish Holocaust Cartoons
> February 8, 2006 11:11 a.m.
>
> The Danish editor behind the publication of caricatures of the prophet
> Muhammad that ignited deadly riots in the Muslim world said Wednesday
> that he is trying to coordinate with an Iranian paper soliciting
> cartoons on the Holocaust.

This hook-nosed kike is perpetrating a farce. First of all, they have laws
in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.
(Yeah, I know, the holocaust is the only chapter of histroy on this planet
that needs judicial protection) If the holohoax could stand on merits, we
wouldn't' need such laws)

Hook-nosed Rose achieved 'It's' objective - It started shit between
Christians and Mulesims, all the while the jEw sits back and laughs.

As for this hook-nosed thing, "posting holohoax cartoons", it won't happen.
--
http://tinyurl.com/7ge7r

---

In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message <2114637.Qt0XcOH1oR@OpenBSD>:

>Schorsch wrote:

>> <quote>Danish Editor Is Willing To Publish Holocaust Cartoons
>> February 8, 2006 11:11 a.m.
>>
>> The Danish editor behind the publication of caricatures of the prophet
>> Muhammad that ignited deadly riots in the Muslim world said Wednesday
>> that he is trying to coordinate with an Iranian paper soliciting
>> cartoons on the Holocaust.

>This hook-nosed kike is perpetrating a farce.


Why do you call yourself a hook-nosed kike?

>First of all, they have laws
>in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.

Really? You can quote Danish law to that effect, idiot child?

>(Yeah, I know, the holocaust is the only chapter of histroy on this planet
>that needs judicial protection) If the holohoax could stand on merits, we
>wouldn't' need such laws)

Which is why the vast majority of the world doesn't, and yet the
normative understanding of these events is basically the same all
over.

>Hook-nosed Rose achieved 'It's' objective - It started shit between
>Christians and Mulesims, all the while the jEw sits back and laughs.
>
>As for this hook-nosed thing, "posting holohoax cartoons", it won't happen.

Funny that you don't want to talk about the fact that these very
cartoons were published first in Egypt, without a single whimper from
those who feel that their anti-semitic, anti-christian crap is okay,
but when the tables are turned begin killing people.

And BTW, idiot child -- when are you going to stop running from all
those lies you've been telling?

---

Roger wrote:

> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
> (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
> someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
> in message <2114637.Qt0XcOH1oR@OpenBSD>:
>
>>Schorsch wrote:
>
>>> <quote>Danish Editor Is Willing To Publish Holocaust Cartoons
>>> February 8, 2006 11:11 a.m.
>>>
>>> The Danish editor behind the publication of caricatures of the prophet
>>> Muhammad that ignited deadly riots in the Muslim world said Wednesday
>>> that he is trying to coordinate with an Iranian paper soliciting
>>> cartoons on the Holocaust.
>
>>This hook-nosed kike is perpetrating a farce.
>
>
> Why do you call yourself a hook-nosed kike?


Read for comprehension.

>>First of all, they have laws
>>in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.
>
> Really? You can quote Danish law to that effect, idiot child?


No, they also have laws against murder, will you deny those laws exists? Oy,
lil Tommy, you must cite these laws.

>>(Yeah, I know, the holocaust is the only chapter of histroy on this planet
>>that needs judicial protection) If the holohoax could stand on merits, we
>>wouldn't' need such laws)
>
> Which is why the vast majority of the world doesn't, and yet the
> normative understanding of these events is basically the same all
> over.


They get their normative understanding about the holocaust from Hymiewood.

>>Hook-nosed Rose achieved 'It's' objective - It started shit between
>>Christians and Mulesims, all the while the jEw sits back and laughs.
>>
>>As for this hook-nosed thing, "posting holohoax cartoons", it won't
>>happen.
>
> Funny that you don't want to talk about the fact that these very
> cartoons were published first in Egypt, without a single whimper from
> those who feel that their anti-semitic, anti-christian crap is okay,
> but when the tables are turned begin killing people.

Uh, what anti-Christian crap? Ya, see dumb crypto-jew-Roger. Just found out
that the rag-head Semites WILL NOT INSULT the Christian-God *JESUS*, They
respect him, unlike the Jew, who sees Jesus in hell burning in hot semen.

> And BTW, idiot child -- when are you going to stop running from all
> those lies you've been telling?

Just got my computers back, dumb crypto-Jew Roger.
--
http://tinyurl.com/7ge7r

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On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:04:20 +0000, Tommy <127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>Roger wrote:
>
>>>First of all, they have laws
>>>in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.
>>
>> Really? You can quote Danish law to that effect, idiot child?
>
>
>No, they also have laws against murder, will you deny those laws exists? Oy,
>lil Tommy, you must cite these laws.

It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in Denmark.
Denmark was itself a victim of Nazi-Germany during WW2 and does not
owe the Jews or the Germans anything. Therefore you are free to
believe or disbelieve in what you like in Denmark about this matter.

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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:40:16 +0100, Ole Kreiberg wrote:

>>>>First of all, they have laws
>>>>in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.
>>>
>>> Really? You can quote Danish law to that effect, idiot child?
>>
>>
>>No, they also have laws against murder, will you deny those laws exists? Oy,
>>lil Tommy, you must cite these laws.
>
> It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in Denmark.

And that coming from you should be evidence enough.

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Frank E. N. Stein <flatus@mail.is> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:40:16 +0100, Ole Kreiberg wrote:
>
> >>>>First of all, they have laws
> >>>>in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.
> >>>
> >>> Really? You can quote Danish law to that effect, idiot child?
> >>
> >>
> >>No, they also have laws against murder, will you deny those laws exists? Oy,
> >>lil Tommy, you must cite these laws.
> >
> > It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in Denmark.
>
> And that coming from you should be evidence enough.

Not really, /some/ prisoners in Denmark are allowed access to the
internet.
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk

---

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:26:04 +0100, Per Rønne wrote:

>> > It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in Denmark.
>>
>> And that coming from you should be evidence enough.
>
> Not really, /some/ prisoners in Denmark are allowed access to the
> internet.

But then he would surely not state that it is legal.

---

Frank E. N. Stein <flatus@mail.is> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:26:04 +0100, Per Rønne wrote:
>
> >> > It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in Denmark.
> >>
> >> And that coming from you should be evidence enough.
> >
> > Not really, /some/ prisoners in Denmark are allowed access to the
> > internet.
>
> But then he would surely not state that it is legal.

Liars are known on the net too - Holocaust-deniers included ...
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk

---

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:05:27 +0100, Per Rønne wrote:

>> >> > It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in Denmark.
>> >>
>> >> And that coming from you should be evidence enough.
>> >
>> > Not really, /some/ prisoners in Denmark are allowed access to the
>> > internet.
>>
>> But then he would surely not state that it is legal.
>
> Liars are known on the net too - Holocaust-deniers included ...

"Hello everybody, i am in jail in Denmark for denying the holocaust of
jews in WWII, but it is not illegal to do so in Denmark, so I am not
really in jail." That does not make sense....

If a well known holocaust-denyer says it is legal to deny the holocaust,
then it is in my opinion a very good evidence.

---

"Frank E. N. Stein" <flatus@mail.is> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.10.14.29.40.807016@mail.is...
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:05:27 +0100, Per Rønne wrote:
>
>>> >> > It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in
>>> >> > Denmark.
>>> >>
>>> >> And that coming from you should be evidence enough.
>>> >
>>> > Not really, /some/ prisoners in Denmark are allowed access to
>>> > the
>>> > internet.
>>>
>>> But then he would surely not state that it is legal.
>>
>> Liars are known on the net too - Holocaust-deniers included ...
>
> "Hello everybody, i am in jail in Denmark for denying the holocaust
> of
> jews in WWII, but it is not illegal to do so in Denmark, so I am not
> really in jail." That does not make sense....
>
> If a well known holocaust-denyer says it is legal to deny the
> holocaust,
> then it is in my opinion a very good evidence.

If you read the book "Løgnens veje" by the Danish Mosaic Leader
Jacques Blum, you will find a long passage calling me nazi and
jewhater, because I am sceptic about 6 million gassings of Jews.
No criticism of Jews have I uttered, and nationalsocialism is far from
my utilitarianism, but the leader of the Danish Jews writes that it is
scandalous that I cannot be punished for my opinions as would be done
in all other EU-countries!

Many excellent researchers such as Dave Irving are behind bars in
Austria and Germany - this is as terrible as the censurship against
drawings of the prophet Muhamed

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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:53:17 +0100, "Bo Warming" <bwng@bwng.dk> wrote:

>If you read the book "Løgnens veje" by the Danish Mosaic Leader
>Jacques Blum, you will find a long passage calling me nazi and
>jewhater, because I am sceptic about 6 million gassings of Jews.
>No criticism of Jews have I uttered, and nationalsocialism is far from
>my utilitarianism, but the leader of the Danish Jews writes that it is
>scandalous that I cannot be punished for my opinions as would be done
>in all other EU-countries!

It is _not_ forbidden to "deny" to holocaust in _all_ the other
EU-countries. It is not forbidden in England, Ireland, Sweden, Greece
and Hungary. I do not know about Italy and some other countries.

---

In article <AN1Hf.16869$PF2.10307@fe80.usenetserver.com>,
Bo Warming <bwng@bwng.dk> wrote:

[...]

>If you read the book "Løgnens veje" by the Danish Mosaic Leader
>Jacques Blum, you will find a long passage calling me nazi and
>jewhater, because I am sceptic about 6 million gassings of Jews.

Who has claimed that 6 million Jews were gassed, Mr. Warming?

>Many excellent researchers such as Dave Irving are behind bars in
>Austria and Germany - this is as terrible as the censurship against
>drawings of the prophet Muhamed

Irving may have been an "excellent researcher," but he is better known as a liar,
antisemite, racist and man who deliberately falsified history.

In the recently concluded libel trial wherein British faux historian
David Irving attempted to censor an American historian,
Judge Gray said (Excerpts - see URL for complete document):

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/judgment-13-01.html

"I am satisfied that in most of the instances cited by the Defendants
Irving has significantly misrepresented what the evidence, objectively
examined, reveals."

"I have concluded that Irving has misrepresented the evidence."

"I accept the evidence of Evans and Longerich that this picture
seriously misrepresents the available contemporaneous evidence."

"To write, as Irving did, that Hitler was "totally unaware of what
Goebbels had done" is in my view to pervert the evidence."

--
"Wipe the smegam from your lips you Jew fag."
(Scott Bradbury, Leading Revisionist Scholar)

---

In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Bo Warming wrote
in message <AN1Hf.16869$PF2.10307@fe80.usenetserver.com>:

>If you read the book "Løgnens veje" by the Danish Mosaic Leader
>Jacques Blum, you will find a long passage calling me nazi and
>jewhater, because I am sceptic about 6 million gassings of Jews.

... for no rational reason that you've ever been able to explain.

Or did you not notice that you're crossposting to alt.revisionism,
where it is well known that you go ***WAY*** beyond being a skeptic
about the number?

>No criticism of Jews have I uttered,

But apologia for the Nazis, you have.

That Danish were under no threat from the Nazis and that Best
personally forced the Swedes to accept all the Danish Jews to remove
them from that threat are the mutually contradictory claims at the
core of bo's delusion.

>and nationalsocialism is far from
>my utilitarianism, but the leader of the Danish Jews writes that it is
>scandalous that I cannot be punished for my opinions as would be done
>in all other EU-countries!
>
>Many excellent researchers such as Dave Irving

You misspelled "disgraced writers of historical fiction."

HTH.

>are behind bars in
>Austria and Germany - this is as terrible as the censurship against
>drawings of the prophet Muhamed

---

Frank E. N. Stein <flatus@mail.is> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:05:27 +0100, Per Rønne wrote:
>
> >> >> > It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in Denmark.
> >> >>
> >> >> And that coming from you should be evidence enough.
> >> >
> >> > Not really, /some/ prisoners in Denmark are allowed access to the
> >> > internet.
> >>
> >> But then he would surely not state that it is legal.
> >
> > Liars are known on the net too - Holocaust-deniers included ...
>
> "Hello everybody, i am in jail in Denmark for denying the holocaust of
> jews in WWII, but it is not illegal to do so in Denmark, so I am not
> really in jail." That does not make sense....
>
> If a well known holocaust-denyer says it is legal to deny the holocaust,
> then it is in my opinion a very good evidence.

Well, in Denmark it /is/ legal to deny holocaust. DNSAP, "Denmark's
National-Socialist Workers' Party", hasn't even been outlawed - though
of course, 5th May 1945 it suddenly vanished and its leaders were put
behind bars.
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk

---

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:29:43 +0100, "Frank E. N. Stein"
<flatus@mail.is> wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:05:27 +0100, Per Rønne wrote:
>
>>> >> > It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in Denmark.
>>> >>
>>> >> And that coming from you should be evidence enough.
>>> >
>>> > Not really, /some/ prisoners in Denmark are allowed access to the
>>> > internet.
>>>
>>> But then he would surely not state that it is legal.
>>
>> Liars are known on the net too - Holocaust-deniers included ...
>
>"Hello everybody, i am in jail in Denmark for denying the holocaust of
>jews in WWII, but it is not illegal to do so in Denmark, so I am not
>really in jail." That does not make sense....
>
>If a well known holocaust-denyer says it is legal to deny the holocaust,
>then it is in my opinion a very good evidence.

Well, I "denied" the holocaust back in 1998 on the Danish State
Televison in prime time in a studio full of howling Jews. That was
great fun. I have also "denied" the holocaust on the Danish State
Radio, private radio stations and in some newspaper. If it is illegal
somebody must have forgotten to write it in the law books.

---

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:50:44 +0100, Ole Kreiberg wrote:

>>>> But then he would surely not state that it is legal.
>>>
>>> Liars are known on the net too - Holocaust-deniers included ...
>>
>>"Hello everybody, i am in jail in Denmark for denying the holocaust of
>>jews in WWII, but it is not illegal to do so in Denmark, so I am not
>>really in jail." That does not make sense....
>>
>>If a well known holocaust-denyer says it is legal to deny the holocaust,
>>then it is in my opinion a very good evidence.
>
> Well, I "denied" the holocaust back in 1998 on the Danish State
> Televison in prime time in a studio full of howling Jews. That was
> great fun. I have also "denied" the holocaust on the Danish State
> Radio, private radio stations and in some newspaper. If it is illegal
> somebody must have forgotten to write it in the law books.

Exactly.

---

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:26:04 +0100, per@RQNNE.invalid (Per Rønne)
wrote:

>Frank E. N. Stein <flatus@mail.is> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:40:16 +0100, Ole Kreiberg wrote:
>>
>> > It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in Denmark.
>>
>> And that coming from you should be evidence enough.
>
>Not really, /some/ prisoners in Denmark are allowed access to the
>internet.

Take a look on these two Danish websites. The first one is containing
some revisionist material and the second one only contains
revisionism.

http://www.patriot.dk/english.html
http://www.holocaust.nu

Denmark believe in free speech like the USA. That is why the Danish
Prime minister is not able stop Danish newspapers from printing
cartoons of Muhammed.

---

In article <828pu1lf0ejnh5hi1h4sdh2e8834ldfr7q@4ax.com>,
Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:

Still planning the ethnic cleansing of Denmark, Mr. Kreiberg?
http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/kreiberg-ole/

--
"Wipe the smegam from your lips you Jew fag."
(Scott Bradbury, Leading Revisionist Scholar)

---

Kenneth McVay OBC <kmcvay@shell.vex.net> wrote:

> In article <828pu1lf0ejnh5hi1h4sdh2e8834ldfr7q@4ax.com>,
> Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>
> Still planning the ethnic cleansing of Denmark, Mr. Kreiberg?
> http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/kreiberg-ole/

I have seen that he is willing to let adopted Korean children stay in
Denmark as long as they are sterilized ...

He's the only Dane I know of with such bizarre views.
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk

---

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:38:56 +0100, per@RQNNE.invalid (Per Rønne)
wrote:

>Kenneth McVay OBC <kmcvay@shell.vex.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <828pu1lf0ejnh5hi1h4sdh2e8834ldfr7q@4ax.com>,
>> Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Still planning the ethnic cleansing of Denmark, Mr. Kreiberg?
>> http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/kreiberg-ole/
>
>I have seen that he is willing to let adopted Korean children stay in
>Denmark as long as they are sterilized ...
>
>He's the only Dane I know of with such bizarre views.

Per Rønne is notorious Islamophobic poster in dk.politik. He has
nothing against ethnic aliens as long they are not Muslims.

---

Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:38:56 +0100, per@RQNNE.invalid (Per Rønne)
> wrote:
>
> >Kenneth McVay OBC <kmcvay@shell.vex.net> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <828pu1lf0ejnh5hi1h4sdh2e8834ldfr7q@4ax.com>,
> >> Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:
> >>
> >> Still planning the ethnic cleansing of Denmark, Mr. Kreiberg?
> >> http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/kreiberg-ole/
> >
> >I have seen that he is willing to let adopted Korean children stay in
> >Denmark as long as they are sterilized ...
> >
> >He's the only Dane I know of with such bizarre views.
>
> Per Rønne is notorious Islamophobic poster in dk.politik. He has
> nothing against ethnic aliens as long they are not Muslims.

I have lots of Islamic pupils [I teach at our 3-year Sixth Form
Colleges] and I have nothing against them. What I dislike is /political/
Islam, the fact that Islam as defined by Mohammad and the first caliphs
unites the offices of Pope and Emperor in one office, that of the
Caliph, that the shariah has "god-given" rules, and that Islam includes
an apartheid system; the dhimmi instution.

As long as Muslims insist on separating these issues from Islam, I have
nothing against them. Naser Khader, MP, has just formed such an
orgaization of "Democratic Muslims" which opposes the notorious imams
who have created the present cirsis.
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk

---

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:22:24 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth
McVay OBC) wrote:

>In article <828pu1lf0ejnh5hi1h4sdh2e8834ldfr7q@4ax.com>,
>Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>
>Still planning the ethnic cleansing of Denmark, Mr. Kreiberg?
>http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/kreiberg-ole/

I still think that an ethnic homogeneous society is more cohesive and
well-functioning than an ethnic heterogenous one. Therefore it is
worth striving for one way or the other. Yeah, Yeah I know that these
kind of views are not political correct in the USA.

---

In article <411qu1tpp1a3c844ba1ars1d1gt4u9dl6t@4ax.com>,
Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:22:24 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth
>McVay OBC) wrote:
>
>>In article <828pu1lf0ejnh5hi1h4sdh2e8834ldfr7q@4ax.com>,
>>Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>>
>>Still planning the ethnic cleansing of Denmark, Mr. Kreiberg?
>>http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/kreiberg-ole/
>
> I still think that an ethnic homogeneous society is more cohesive and
>well-functioning than an ethnic heterogenous one. Therefore it is
>worth striving for one way or the other. Yeah, Yeah I know that these
>kind of views are not political correct in the USA.

It isn't "politically correct" anywhere in the Western World, Mr. Kreiberg, nor are you
likely to be appreciated for your suggestion that these "undesirables" be arrested in the
middle of the night.

Europe is all too familiar with that kind of rhetoric, Mr. Kreiberg.

--
"STOP BEING FILTHY JEW KIKE VERMIN LIAR!!"
(Bellville's Scott Bradbury, a leading revisionist scholar)

---

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:08:39 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth
McVay OBC) wrote:

>> I still think that an ethnic homogeneous society is more cohesive and
>>well-functioning than an ethnic heterogenous one. Therefore it is
>>worth striving for one way or the other. Yeah, Yeah I know that these
>>kind of views are not political correct in the USA.
>
>It isn't "politically correct" anywhere in the Western World, Mr. Kreiberg, nor are you
>likely to be appreciated for your suggestion that these "undesirables" be arrested in the
>middle of the night.

What is the matter with arresting people in the middle of the night?
The police always come after people late at might or early in the
morning to be sure that they are at home.

>Europe is all too familiar with that kind of rhetoric, Mr. Kreiberg.

Europe? There is not a common European identity and has never been.
It only exists in the mind of the Americans. In the USA you have been
able to blend various different European immigrants into a common
American nationality with an Anglo Saxon identity. There is not such a
common European identity. I am always insulted of being called an
European when I am in the USA. I usually say, when americans call me
that, that I can't see why I would have more in common with e.g. a
German or Frenchman than an American. I am Danish and secondly
Scandinavian.

And the above-mentioned rhetoric is unfutunately heard very seldom in
any European country like in the USA.

---

In article <fj4qu1pl31ropk82ffpnl5j051jo6pe1qa@4ax.com>,
Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:08:39 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth
>McVay OBC) wrote:
>
>>> I still think that an ethnic homogeneous society is more cohesive and
>>>well-functioning than an ethnic heterogenous one. Therefore it is
>>>worth striving for one way or the other. Yeah, Yeah I know that these
>>>kind of views are not political correct in the USA.
>>
>>It isn't "politically correct" anywhere in the Western World, Mr. Kreiberg, nor are you
>>likely to be appreciated for your suggestion that these "undesirables" be arrested in the
>>middle of the night.
>
> What is the matter with arresting people in the middle of the night?

It is a technique deliberately designed to terrorize.

>The police always come after people late at might or early in the
>morning to be sure that they are at home.
>
>>Europe is all too familiar with that kind of rhetoric, Mr. Kreiberg.
>
> Europe? There is not a common European identity and has never been.
>It only exists in the mind of the Americans. In the USA you have been
>able to blend various different European immigrants into a common

I am not in the USA, Mr. Kreiberg, although my views would not be any different if I was.


--
"Only anti-Christs, babykillers, homose, Pharisees, commies
and other such filth don't like me." (Bellville's Scott
Bradbury, leading revisionist scholar)

---

Is it not hilarious MrFuck if we could see a picture of the electric
conveyor belt where the Jews were electrocuted by the Germans.

Kurt Knoll.

"Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmcvay@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
news:11uq3n7tetcde1@corp.supernews.com...
> In article <411qu1tpp1a3c844ba1ars1d1gt4u9dl6t@4ax.com>,
> Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>>On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:22:24 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth
>>McVay OBC) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <828pu1lf0ejnh5hi1h4sdh2e8834ldfr7q@4ax.com>,
>>>Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>>Still planning the ethnic cleansing of Denmark, Mr. Kreiberg?
>>>http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/kreiberg-ole/
>>
>> I still think that an ethnic homogeneous society is more cohesive and
>>well-functioning than an ethnic heterogenous one. Therefore it is
>>worth striving for one way or the other. Yeah, Yeah I know that these
>>kind of views are not political correct in the USA.
>
> It isn't "politically correct" anywhere in the Western World, Mr.
> Kreiberg, nor are you
> likely to be appreciated for your suggestion that these "undesirables" be
> arrested in the
> middle of the night.
>
> Europe is all too familiar with that kind of rhetoric, Mr. Kreiberg.
>
> --
> "STOP BEING FILTHY JEW KIKE VERMIN LIAR!!"
> (Bellville's Scott Bradbury, a leading revisionist scholar)

---

In article <e42pu1t2toqqn43e22p1om1h0fcu0t4so1@4ax.com>,
Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:04:20 +0000, Tommy <127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
> >Roger wrote:
> >
> >>>First of all, they have laws
> >>>in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.
> >>
> >> Really? You can quote Danish law to that effect, idiot child?
> >
> >
> >No, they also have laws against murder, will you deny those laws exists? Oy,
> >lil Tommy, you must cite these laws.
>
> It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in Denmark.
> Denmark was itself a victim of Nazi-Germany during WW2 and does not
> owe the Jews or the Germans anything. Therefore you are free to
> believe or disbelieve in what you like in Denmark about this matter.

But Ole, the little baby boy Tommy SAYS you have laws against Holocaust
denial. And the little baby boy, who still lives with his mommy MUST
know more than you do about the subject.

Besides, he might throw a temper tantrum if you question his "facts."

Sara
(welcome back)

--
"A great many people think they are thinking when they are really
rearranging their prejudices."
- Edward R. Murrow

---

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:38:31 -0700, Sara Salzman
<catamont@concentric.net> wrote:

>In article <e42pu1t2toqqn43e22p1om1h0fcu0t4so1@4ax.com>,
> Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>
>> It is not illegal to question or disbelieve the holocaust in Denmark.
>> Denmark was itself a victim of Nazi-Germany during WW2 and does not
>> owe the Jews or the Germans anything. Therefore you are free to
>> believe or disbelieve in what you like in Denmark about this matter.
>
>But Ole, the little baby boy Tommy SAYS you have laws against Holocaust
>denial. And the little baby boy, who still lives with his mommy MUST
>know more than you do about the subject.

If you read the law books carefully you will find out that in 1988
the Danish second appeal court (Landsretten) made a decision which
gave an important precedence.

Germany wanted Denmark to extradite a German revisionist Thies
Christophersen who at that time had lived in Denmark for several
years. The extradition order was rejected by the Danish courts,
because what he said was not "of a not insignificant rudeness". This
means that he had not violated the Danish hate law which on the
surface looks much like the German one but has an important difference
of which you can read in the law books. When the law was made the word
"insult" was changed to "debase" in order to protect free speech. An
example of current interest: The Muhammed cartoons were only insulting
and not debasing according to that Danish district attorney
(statsadvokat) who rejected to charge the newspaper, Jyllands-Posten.
The same goes for sheer holocaust-"denial". That means that if you
apply what the courts describe as general terms you are free to
criticize ethnic minorities and question the holocaust. Furthermore
this hate law does not apply to scientific theories, and other
precedences call for leniency for speech made in a public debate. Only
fools or people who deliberately seek martyrdom or victimhood get
convicted for "hate speech" in Denmark.

---

Ole Kreiberg <kreiberg15@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> If you read the law books carefully you will find out that in 1988
> the Danish second appeal court (Landsretten)

High Court. Below the Supreme Court. And above the city courts.

Denmark has two High Courts, one Supreme Court and lots of city courts.
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk

---

In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message <2561260.PdLrDX7Xft@OpenBSD>:

>Roger wrote:

>>>> <quote>Danish Editor Is Willing To Publish Holocaust Cartoons
>>>> February 8, 2006 11:11 a.m.
>>>>
>>>> The Danish editor behind the publication of caricatures of the prophet
>>>> Muhammad that ignited deadly riots in the Muslim world said Wednesday
>>>> that he is trying to coordinate with an Iranian paper soliciting
>>>> cartoons on the Holocaust.

>>>This hook-nosed kike is perpetrating a farce.

>> Why do you call yourself a hook-nosed kike?

>Read for comprehension.

Well, I assume you were referring to yourself, since you offer
absolutely nothing but your own prejudice to support that
characterizations of Flemming Rose as either Jewish or hook-nosed --
and the only farce here is *you*.

>>>First of all, they have laws
>>>in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.

>> Really? You can quote Danish law to that effect, idiot child?

>No,

Ah, so you're just making it up as you go along.

Why is it you think this gives you any credibility?

>they also have laws against murder, will you deny those laws exists?

Irrelevant, but since you brought the subject up:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3542348.stm

<quote>

In Denmark, there are four types of murder - general, child killing,
mercy killing and genocide, which carry sentences ranging from five
years to life.

</quote>

Your turn -- you insist that Denmark has laws against "denying the
Jewish version of WW-ll."

Are you going to admit you lied when you said that, or shall we laugh
as you tap dance around not being able to demonstrate that any such
law exists?

>Oy, lil Tommy, you must cite these laws.

.... unless you want to once again be made to look like the foolish
little child you are, making claims that are demonstrably false.

Maybe you'll throw a tantrum for us to chuckle at?

>>>(Yeah, I know, the holocaust is the only chapter of histroy on this planet
>>>that needs judicial protection) If the holohoax could stand on merits, we
>>>wouldn't' need such laws)

>> Which is why the vast majority of the world doesn't, and yet the
>> normative understanding of these events is basically the same all
>> over.

>They get their normative understanding about the holocaust from Hymiewood.

No, from history books written by real historians.

You should try it some time, you wouldn't look so bone ignorant.

>>>Hook-nosed Rose achieved 'It's' objective - It started shit between
>>>Christians and Mulesims, all the while the jEw sits back and laughs.
>>>
>>>As for this hook-nosed thing, "posting holohoax cartoons", it won't
>>>happen.

>> Funny that you don't want to talk about the fact that these very
>> cartoons were published first in Egypt, without a single whimper from
>> those who feel that their anti-semitic, anti-christian crap is okay,
>> but when the tables are turned begin killing people.

>Uh, what anti-Christian crap?

zie says, exposing zir profound ignorance of Muslim press...

>Ya, see dumb crypto-jew-Roger. Just found out
>that the rag-head Semites WILL NOT INSULT the Christian-God *JESUS*, They
>respect him,

Once again, theory and practice are two different things:

http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=5088

<quote>

Saleem said he had accused the Christian (of blasphemy) on the basis
of “mere suspicion”.

It was the blasphemy charge against Masih, a semi-illiterate
agricultural labourer that ignited the rage of a horde of around 2,000
Muslims on 12 November. The mob attacked, destroyed and razed three
Christian churches, a convent, two Catholic schools, the homes of a
Protestant pastor and a Catholic parish priest, a girls’ hostel and
the homes of some Christians.

</quote>

A *lot* of respect being shown there, don't you think?

>unlike the Jew, who sees Jesus in hell burning in hot semen.

Yet another lie you've been fed by other haters, which you have
directly looked at yourself, and from which you will now begin to
run...

>> And BTW, idiot child -- when are you going to stop running from all
>> those lies you've been telling?

>Just got my computers back, dumb crypto-Jew Roger.

LOL -- you've been posting all week, as I've pointed out elsewhere.

You're currently in full retreat from the "FACTS That Make Roger & Bob
Tilt" and "The First Six Million" threads, both from Monday, both of
which you *have* responded to, and both of which you are now running
from, your lame attempts to explain away your inability to even begin
to address them notwithstanding.

Not to mention your lame attempt to revisionize your own posting
history by snipping and running from the following list:

For example, your lame attempts to excuse ger-joe's dishonest use of
pseudonyms, and while you claim that his report is any better than
leuchter's when his has exactly the same flaws -- which you have
admitted were flaws?

Maybe you've found the reason that PB always forms on contact with
HCN, and yet the staining in the fumigation chambers is not uniform?

Or why the hallway walls opposite the doors to those fumigation
chambers show massive staining?

Or your lie about Lipstadt "denying" Dresden?

Or your lie that the EG did not specifically target Jews, including
women and children?

Or your lie that "whites" and "black" are from different biological
families.

Or your lie that the A-1 and A-2 genes can be used as an indicator of
race.

Or that zebras and horses need more human intervention than simply
bringing them together in order to breed?

Or that HCN possession is illegal.

Or that HCN is used in the production of sarin.

Or that HCN only has one use.

Or that requiring a prescription makes a substance illegal.

Or that being unable to purchase a substance at a drug store makes it
illegal.

Or that steroids have no side effects.

Or that that monument in Boston is to commemorate Bolshevism?

Or that it is a "Jewish" group trying to build it?"

Or that your claims about the NKVD have anything at all to do with
Soviet war veterans?

Or that I "seek out" gentiles to flame?

Or that I "condone" metsisah.

Or ... ?

Snip and run, idiot child.

---

You've been had, woger.





"Roger" <roger@.> wrote in message
news:s22pu1p8kf34ljeiood439vs47a37gj3o9@4ax.com...
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
> (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
> someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
> in message <2561260.PdLrDX7Xft@OpenBSD>:
>
>>Roger wrote:
>
>>>>> <quote>Danish Editor Is Willing To Publish Holocaust Cartoons
>>>>> February 8, 2006 11:11 a.m.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Danish editor behind the publication of caricatures of the prophet
>>>>> Muhammad that ignited deadly riots in the Muslim world said Wednesday
>>>>> that he is trying to coordinate with an Iranian paper soliciting
>>>>> cartoons on the Holocaust.
>
>>>>This hook-nosed kike is perpetrating a farce.
>
>>> Why do you call yourself a hook-nosed kike?
>
>>Read for comprehension.
>
> Well, I assume you were referring to yourself, since you offer
> absolutely nothing but your own prejudice to support that
> characterizations of Flemming Rose as either Jewish or hook-nosed --
> and the only farce here is *you*.
>
>>>>First of all, they have laws
>>>>in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.
>
>>> Really? You can quote Danish law to that effect, idiot child?
>
>>No,
>
> Ah, so you're just making it up as you go along.
>
> Why is it you think this gives you any credibility?
>
>>they also have laws against murder, will you deny those laws exists?
>
> Irrelevant, but since you brought the subject up:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3542348.stm
>
> <quote>
>
> In Denmark, there are four types of murder - general, child killing,
> mercy killing and genocide, which carry sentences ranging from five
> years to life.
>
> </quote>
>
> Your turn -- you insist that Denmark has laws against "denying the
> Jewish version of WW-ll."
>
> Are you going to admit you lied when you said that, or shall we laugh
> as you tap dance around not being able to demonstrate that any such
> law exists?
>
>>Oy, lil Tommy, you must cite these laws.
>
> ... unless you want to once again be made to look like the foolish
> little child you are, making claims that are demonstrably false.
>
> Maybe you'll throw a tantrum for us to chuckle at?
>
>>>>(Yeah, I know, the holocaust is the only chapter of histroy on this
>>>>planet
>>>>that needs judicial protection) If the holohoax could stand on merits,
>>>>we
>>>>wouldn't' need such laws)
>
>>> Which is why the vast majority of the world doesn't, and yet the
>>> normative understanding of these events is basically the same all
>>> over.
>
>>They get their normative understanding about the holocaust from Hymiewood.
>
> No, from history books written by real historians.
>
> You should try it some time, you wouldn't look so bone ignorant.
>
>>>>Hook-nosed Rose achieved 'It's' objective - It started shit between
>>>>Christians and Mulesims, all the while the jEw sits back and laughs.
>>>>
>>>>As for this hook-nosed thing, "posting holohoax cartoons", it won't
>>>>happen.
>
>>> Funny that you don't want to talk about the fact that these very
>>> cartoons were published first in Egypt, without a single whimper from
>>> those who feel that their anti-semitic, anti-christian crap is okay,
>>> but when the tables are turned begin killing people.
>
>>Uh, what anti-Christian crap?
>
> zie says, exposing zir profound ignorance of Muslim press...
>
>>Ya, see dumb crypto-jew-Roger. Just found out
>>that the rag-head Semites WILL NOT INSULT the Christian-God *JESUS*, They
>>respect him,
>
> Once again, theory and practice are two different things:
>
> http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=5088
>
> <quote>
>
> Saleem said he had accused the Christian (of blasphemy) on the basis
> of "mere suspicion".
>
> It was the blasphemy charge against Masih, a semi-illiterate
> agricultural labourer that ignited the rage of a horde of around 2,000
> Muslims on 12 November. The mob attacked, destroyed and razed three
> Christian churches, a convent, two Catholic schools, the homes of a
> Protestant pastor and a Catholic parish priest, a girls' hostel and
> the homes of some Christians.
>
> </quote>
>
> A *lot* of respect being shown there, don't you think?
>
>>unlike the Jew, who sees Jesus in hell burning in hot semen.
>
> Yet another lie you've been fed by other haters, which you have
> directly looked at yourself, and from which you will now begin to
> run...
>
>>> And BTW, idiot child -- when are you going to stop running from all
>>> those lies you've been telling?
>
>>Just got my computers back, dumb crypto-Jew Roger.
>
> LOL -- you've been posting all week, as I've pointed out elsewhere.
>
> You're currently in full retreat from the "FACTS That Make Roger & Bob
> Tilt" and "The First Six Million" threads, both from Monday, both of
> which you *have* responded to, and both of which you are now running
> from, your lame attempts to explain away your inability to even begin
> to address them notwithstanding.
>
> Not to mention your lame attempt to revisionize your own posting
> history by snipping and running from the following list:
>
> For example, your lame attempts to excuse ger-joe's dishonest use of
> pseudonyms, and while you claim that his report is any better than
> leuchter's when his has exactly the same flaws -- which you have
> admitted were flaws?
>
> Maybe you've found the reason that PB always forms on contact with
> HCN, and yet the staining in the fumigation chambers is not uniform?
>
> Or why the hallway walls opposite the doors to those fumigation
> chambers show massive staining?
>
> Or your lie about Lipstadt "denying" Dresden?
>
> Or your lie that the EG did not specifically target Jews, including
> women and children?
>
> Or your lie that "whites" and "black" are from different biological
> families.
>
> Or your lie that the A-1 and A-2 genes can be used as an indicator of
> race.
>
> Or that zebras and horses need more human intervention than simply
> bringing them together in order to breed?
>
> Or that HCN possession is illegal.
>
> Or that HCN is used in the production of sarin.
>
> Or that HCN only has one use.
>
> Or that requiring a prescription makes a substance illegal.
>
> Or that being unable to purchase a substance at a drug store makes it
> illegal.
>
> Or that steroids have no side effects.
>
> Or that that monument in Boston is to commemorate Bolshevism?
>
> Or that it is a "Jewish" group trying to build it?"
>
> Or that your claims about the NKVD have anything at all to do with
> Soviet war veterans?
>
> Or that I "seek out" gentiles to flame?
>
> Or that I "condone" metsisah.
>
> Or ... ?
>
> Snip and run, idiot child.

---

"Tommy" <127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:2561260.PdLrDX7Xft@OpenBSD...
> Roger wrote:
>
> > In one age, called the Second Age by some,
> > (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
> > someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
> > in message <2114637.Qt0XcOH1oR@OpenBSD>:
> >
> >>Schorsch wrote:
> >
> >>> <quote>Danish Editor Is Willing To Publish Holocaust Cartoons
> >>> February 8, 2006 11:11 a.m.
> >>>
> >>> The Danish editor behind the publication of caricatures of the prophet
> >>> Muhammad that ignited deadly riots in the Muslim world said Wednesday
> >>> that he is trying to coordinate with an Iranian paper soliciting
> >>> cartoons on the Holocaust.
> >
> >>This hook-nosed kike is perpetrating a farce.
> >
> >
> > Why do you call yourself a hook-nosed kike?
>
>
> Read for comprehension.
>
> >>First of all, they have laws
> >>in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.
> >
> > Really? You can quote Danish law to that effect, idiot child?
>
>
> No, they also have laws against murder, will you deny those laws exists?
Oy,
> lil Tommy, you must cite these laws.

And once again little boy Tommy shows that he fails to understand a very
basic question.

You're asked to cite the law, Tommy, because when you go to look, you'll
find out that there isn't one. Denmark does not have Holocaust denial
laws.


>
> >>(Yeah, I know, the holocaust is the only chapter of histroy on this
planet
> >>that needs judicial protection) If the holohoax could stand on merits,
we
> >>wouldn't' need such laws)
> >
> > Which is why the vast majority of the world doesn't, and yet the
> > normative understanding of these events is basically the same all
> > over.
>
>
> They get their normative understanding about the holocaust from Hymiewood.

And you get your complete lack of understanding from where, exactly?


>
> >>Hook-nosed Rose achieved 'It's' objective - It started shit between
> >>Christians and Mulesims, all the while the jEw sits back and laughs.
> >>
> >>As for this hook-nosed thing, "posting holohoax cartoons", it won't
> >>happen.
> >
> > Funny that you don't want to talk about the fact that these very
> > cartoons were published first in Egypt, without a single whimper from
> > those who feel that their anti-semitic, anti-christian crap is okay,
> > but when the tables are turned begin killing people.
>
> Uh, what anti-Christian crap?

Don't know anything at all about the persecution of Christians in Egypt and
other Muslim countries, do you?

> Ya, see dumb crypto-jew-Roger.

I'm not sure you want to start with calling people "dumb", Tommy,
considering what you're writing.

> Just found out
> that the rag-head Semites

Not that Tommy has anything against Muslims... no, he shows so much respect
for others...

> WILL NOT INSULT the Christian-God *JESUS*,

Oh, Tommy, children like you are so funny. Do you actually think that
Muslims consider Jesus to be God?

>. They
> respect him, unlike the Jew, who sees Jesus in hell burning in hot semen.

Pssst.. Tommy.. your sources really aren't very good. Check again.

>
> > And BTW, idiot child -- when are you going to stop running from all
> > those lies you've been telling?
>
> Just got my computers back, dumb crypto-Jew Roger.

And apparently, you've decided to immediately display your utter lack of
knowledge, understanding, and respect.

What a clown you are, little boy.

-pk


> --
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Oi, Paddy. You've still not answered my question.

Are you the philanthropic type of Paddy Keenan?

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On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:04:36 +0000, Tommy wrote:

> This hook-nosed kike is perpetrating a farce.

You think that Flemming Rose is a Jew? He is not.

> First of all, they have laws
> in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.

No, we do not have laws against that.

---

Tommy <127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1> writes:

> Roger wrote:
>
>> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>> (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>> someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
>> in message <2114637.Qt0XcOH1oR@OpenBSD>:
>>
>>>Schorsch wrote:
>>
>>>> <quote>Danish Editor Is Willing To Publish Holocaust Cartoons
>>>> February 8, 2006 11:11 a.m.
>>>>
>>>> The Danish editor behind the publication of caricatures of the prophet
>>>> Muhammad that ignited deadly riots in the Muslim world said Wednesday
>>>> that he is trying to coordinate with an Iranian paper soliciting
>>>> cartoons on the Holocaust.
>>
>>>This hook-nosed kike is perpetrating a farce.
>>
>>
>> Why do you call yourself a hook-nosed kike?
>
>
> Read for comprehension.

Read with some sophistication.


>
>>>First of all, they have laws
>>>in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.
>>
>> Really? You can quote Danish law to that effect, idiot child?
>
>
> No, they also have laws against murder,

Those you could quote.

whd
--
National Runt: speaking of himself?

Is this someone who is relevant?

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"Tommy" <127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:2114637.Qt0XcOH1oR@OpenBSD...
> Schorsch wrote:
>
> > <quote>Danish Editor Is Willing To Publish Holocaust Cartoons
> > February 8, 2006 11:11 a.m.
> >
> > The Danish editor behind the publication of caricatures of the prophet
> > Muhammad that ignited deadly riots in the Muslim world said Wednesday
> > that he is trying to coordinate with an Iranian paper soliciting
> > cartoons on the Holocaust.
>
> This hook-nosed kike is perpetrating a farce. First of all, they have laws
> in that country that makes denying the Jewish version of WW-ll a crime.

Really, you think Denmark has those laws? Name the law, then.

> (Yeah, I know, the holocaust is the only chapter of histroy on this planet
> that needs judicial protection)

.... but you actually know that that claim is false, Tommy. You've been
shown why before, and have even agreed with it!

So are you forgetful or has your hatred made you think it's OK to lie - or
did your hatred make you *stop* thinking?

Try disputing the history of Muhammed in any Islamic country. That will
show you what judicial protection of history *really* means.

> If the holohoax could stand on merits, we
> wouldn't' need such laws)

Your attempts at hoaxing won't stand on its merits; the history of the
Holocaust does.

You really should try to actually learn something, Tommy. And try to stop
lying.

-pk


> Hook-nosed Rose achieved 'It's' objective - It started shit between
> Christians and Mulesims, all the while the jEw sits back and laughs.
>
> As for this hook-nosed thing, "posting holohoax cartoons", it won't
happen.
> --
> http://tinyurl.com/7ge7r

---

Do you mean holohoax cartoons? That would be interesting.

"Holocaust revisionism, ie, the examination of the supposed
genociding of Jews in the Third Reich. The generally-accepted version
of this event -- or, more properly, this NON-event -- is what I call
the Orthodox Jewish Version of the Holocaust, or OJV for short, which
holds in its present version that the nazis killed 'six million' Jews
in 'gas chambers'. As it happens, however, there are numerous problems
with the OJV. The following is a list of the major ones.

* The 'evidence' for the OJV consists primarily of the records of the
court proceedings of the Nuremberg trials. As it happens, however,
vengeful Jews were largely in charge of these trials. (According to
Louis Marshalko in his book The World Conquerers, of the 3000 persons
on the trial staff, 2400 were Jews.) Adding to the problem was the
fact that (1) there was no historical precedent for war crimes trials
in which only the vanquished were called to account for their actions;
and (2) these trials violated the fundamental principle of fairness
that no one is to be tried for violating a law that was instituted 'ex
post facto', ie, after the crime was committed.

* 'Confessions' used in the trial were highly dubious, since many were
extracted by torture or or other unethical means, such as threatening
the families of the accused (According to British scholar Vivian Bird,
more than one hundred German defendants had their testicles beaten to
a pulp by 'interrogators'.) Two confessions were particularly
egregious: That of Rudolf Hoss, commandant of Auschwitz, which was
(among other things) written in a language he did not even understand,
and which provided the major basis for the 'six million' figure; and
that of Kurt Gerstein, the dubiousness of which was the subject of a
French doctoral dissertation.

* Many of the atrocities that were seriously alleged at the trials are
now rejected by even establishment historians as false, the most
prominent of which are the stories that Jewish bodies were made into
soap and their skin was made into lampshades. Evidently such stories
were created as war propaganda, just as were similar stories in WW1
about 'Huns' who were 'bayonetting babies'.

* The defendants in the trials had no opportunity to gather evidence
in their defense, and in addition were often given poor food,
subjected to freezing weather without proper clothing, deprived of
sleep, and -- as stated earlier -- often brutally beaten. Furthermore,
those who were condemned to death had their sentences postponed until
they could be carried out on the Jewish High Holy Days in a sort of
'blood libel' celebration.

* The printed trial transcripts often do not match the trial
recordings, and were evidently deliberately changed to cover up
embarrassing facts brought out by defendants in their trials.

* Auschwitz was not a 'death camp', as alleged at the trials, but a
large industrial complex in Poland, and the inmates were forced
laborers. The nazis were desperate for labor, so it would have been
irrational for them to have 'gassed' anyone, and equally irrational
for them to have mistreated inmates or underfed them. In fact, there
was a special court, under SS Judge Konrad Morgen, to try complaints
against camp personnel for abusing inmates. Beyond this, Heinrich
Himmler, who held principal authority over the camps, sent a memo to
all camp commandants stating that inmate deaths must be reduced 'at
all costs' -- hardly something one would expect to find in a 'death
camp'. And while it was alleged at the trials that 4 million Jews were
'gassed' at Auschwitz, the German camp records were not admitted into
evidence, and would probably have vindicated many of the defendants if
they had been. In particular, the Auschwitz death books, which were
released by the Russian government about a decade ago, show that only
about 74,000 people died at Auschwitz in all the years of its
operation, most from typhus, with only about 30,000 of them being
Jews. Furthermore, the crematoria were intended not for the 'killing
of Jews', but rather for the sanitary disposal of the bodies of those
who died from typhus.

* While there were Allied spies in most camps reporting on camp
conditions by radio, none of these spies ever made a report about mass
killings or 'gas chambers'. The idea of 'gas chambers' evidently arose
from the fact that all the clothes of arriving inmates were
disinfected in a kind of gas chamber in which Zyklon B was used to
kill lice which were feared as disease vectors (Lousy Jews?). These
delousing chambers, it should be noted, were far too small for killing
people, particularly in the numbers posited by the OJV. It should also
be noted that Zyklon B, the form of cyanide supposedly used to kill
Jews, was in fact a special form of slow- release cyanide which was
appropriate for de-lousing clothing, but inappropriate for the
instantaneous killing that was supposedly done in the "gas chambers".
(The irony of Germans being accused of killing Jews by an instrument
which they (Germans) used for preserving Jewish lives should not go
unnoticed.) In addition, as revisionists have noted, such killings
would have been impossible on the scale claimed by the OJV because
cyanide is so dangerous that the bodies would have had to lie for
hours before they could be safely removed, even by those wearing
protective clothing and gas masks. Beyond this, cyanide gas is
explosive, so that any little spark, as from the friction of shoes on
the floor, or any flame, as from a cigaret, would have caused any 'gas
chamber' to be transported to the place where it was supposedly
sending Jews.

* Revisionists have proved that the rooms alleged to be 'gas chambers'
could not possibly have served this purpose. The first investigation
of this problem was done not for the Nuremberg trials, but rather many
years later by Fred Leuchter, an American engineer and execution
expert, who took samples from the walls of supposed 'gas chambers' at
several camps and found that there was essentially no cyanide residue
-- an impossibility if the rooms had been used as alleged. (Altho
Leuchter's work was flawed, his conclusions have been confirmed
independently by two other experts, Walter Luftl and Germar Rudolf.)
Other problems posed for the OJV by the alleged 'gas chambers' involve
such things as no air circulatory system for dispersing or ventilating
the gas, no means for heating the Zyklon B discs for proper dispersal,
the fact that the doors of the 'gas chambers' opened from the INSIDE,
and that Allied aerial photographs of Auschwitz during the war showed
no holes in the roof of the supposed 'gas chambers' which would have
allowed the introduction of Zyklon B -- a point made by Holocaust
revisionists in their oft-repeated challenge, "No holes; no
Holocaust!"

* There is no good evidence that nazi references to the 'final
solution to the Jewish question' referred to anything other than
removal of Jews from the area of the Third Reich, the (false)
allegations about the Wansee Conference notwithstanding. In
particular, no 'Hitler order' (or order from anyone else) has ever
been discovered, in spite of the known German propensity for extensive
record-keeping, altho there is an internal memo of a phone
conversation with Hitler signed by Hans Lemmerer of the Ministry of
the Interior showing that Hitler wanted the solution of the Jewish
problem SHELVED until the end of the war. Beyond this, the nazis
actually cooperated with the Zionists under the so-called Transfer
Agreement ("Ha'avara") to train Jews for settlement in Palestine, and
the training camps for Zionists were the only places in nazi Germany
in which the flag of the Zionist state was allowed to fly.

* Jewish population numbers published in standard reference works both
before and after the war do not show a decrease of Jewish numbers, but
rather an INCREASE. These reference works also demonstrate that THERE
WERE NOT EVEN SIX MILLION JEWS IN NAZI-OCCUPIED EUROPE
DURING THE PERIOD.

* The 'six million' is a mystical number derived from Jewish
scripture, and in particular is the number of Jews who are said to be
required to die before Israel can be re-established. This accounts for
why "New York governor Martin Glynn, in a major Albany speech in
October 1919 [that's TWENTY YEARS BEFORE THE START OF
WORLD WAR TWO, for all you who are a tad weak on dates], reported at
length on the 'holocaust [of] six million Jewish men and women' who
were dying due to the 'awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for
Jewish blood' during the 'Great War'" (Irena Zdiarska, "Holocaust Is
Undeniable -- But Should Be Debated", Barnes Review Oct 94: 27)). It
also accounts for the fact that, in spite of the formal reduction from
4 to 1.1 million of the number of Jews claimed to have been killed at
Auschwitz (see pix of Auschwitz plaques below), the 'six million'
number has never changed, and thus that in the Orwellian Kabbalistic
mathematics on which it is based, six minus three still equals six.


* The OJV has changed significantly over the years. We have already
mentioned that the 'soap' and 'lampshade' allegations are now rejected
by even establishment historians, altho this does not keep Jews from
continuing to hold burial ceremonies for newly-discovered bars of old
Reich soap (we don't know whether they have also done the same for
lampshades.) Another feature of the original OJV that has now changed
was the allegation that Jews were exterminated at the camps in Germany
as well as Poland -- an allegation which has been abandoned for some
time. Yet another abandoned allegation is that mass killings were
carried out by means of steam, electricity, gas vans (using the
exhaust), and burning in pits; and in fact, the Holocaust received its
name from the latter allegation -- yet another irony of this congeries
of lies.

* The one thing which has done most to convince people that the
allegations of German atrocities are true is the film clips we have
all seen of the liberation of the concentration camps, in which bodies
are shown piled high, and surviving inmates are seen to be little more
than walking skeletons. But in fact these admittedly-shocking films do
not make a case for German atrocities, and in fact actually refute the
notion of "gas chambers": If Germans were gassing Jews by the
millions, as the OJV alleges, then Jews simply would not be around
long enuf to starve, as the "walking skeletons" and emaciated bodies
of the dead obviously were doing. The starvation, it should be noted,
was simply a reflection of the fact that, toward the end of the war,
the German supply lines had broken down, and food was not getting to
the camps. And above all, one should not think that there is anything
unique to Germany about "walking skeletons" in "concentration camps":
Exactly the same thing happened at the Andersonville prison during the
American Civil War, and the nearby photo is a picture of one of those
inmates.

* If there is any one thing which is a clinching argument to the
matter of the OJV, it is the fact that it is illegal to openly express
doubt about this story in most countries of the Western world,
including Germany (of course!), Israel (of course!), Austria (of
course!), Spain, France, Australia, and Canada; and in those few
countries in which it is not illegal, the laws forbidding 'race hate'
are increasingly being interpreted as forbidding such expression. The
point here is that fact does not require the support of legislation --
only falsehood does. And of course it does not take a rocket scientist
to figure who is behind this illegalization; nor does it take a rocket
scientist to figure why cases of 'Holocaust denial' are so vigorously
prosecuted: Jews, and particularly Israel, have profited in numerous
ways and by billions of dollars in playing this scam, including an
unending number of Holocaust movies (more than 400 at last count,
according to scholar Michael Hoffman), Holocaust museums (popping up
everywhere), Holocaust books (Elie 'The Weasel' Wiesel has written
more than 30; The Diary of Anne Frank is a perennial best- seller,
etc, etc, etc), TV dramas (the airing of "Holocaust' in 1970 is when
the scam really took off), 'survivors' by the millions -- all
pensioned by the German government, shakedowns of companies which
supposedly profited from 'slave labor' or were otherwise tinged by
Third- Reich-related activities (eg, IBM, Swiss banks), and of course
the billions in 'reparations', 'foreign aid' and other 'guilt money'
showered on Israel by Germany and the US. It has gotten so bad that
Jewish Professor Norman Finkelstein calls it "The Holocaust Industry"
in
his book by the same name, where he quotes his mother as asking, "If
Hitler killed so many Jews, then where did all the 'survivors' come
from?" No need to explain, then, why there is a saying among Jews that
"There's no business like Shoah (Holocaust) business."

* The only facts that come within even a country mile of supporting
the contention of nazi extermination of Jews are reports of the
shootings on the Eastern front of communist partisans, many of whom
were Jews. The following is what Lawrence Nevers has had to say on the
subject:

continued"

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Jews/Jews-HoloRev.html

http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com

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In article <c7mqu15t6mvd1t0svdhb2i4bc35hnsfben@4ax.com>,
Alex 'Topaz' Vangel <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Do you mean holohoax cartoons? That would be interesting.

Mr. Vangel forgot to mention that he thinks murder is a dandy way to
deal with "problem" children.

Here is a quote from Alex Vangel:

"I said I agreed with the Bible because it is against the
homosexual perverts, the feminists, and the Jews. This is
what it says about delinquents:

"Deuteronomy 21:18-21
"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will
not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother,
and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto
them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him,
and bring him out unto the elders of the city, and unto the
gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his
city, This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not
obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the
men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die:
so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel
shall hear, and fear." (UseNet alt.revisionism. Subject:
"Re: More crap from the VangelBot," 31 Jan. 2001. Message-ID:
3c58902e_2@spamkiller.newsgroups.com)

Note that this quote from Mr. Vangel says nothing about
"homosexual perverts, the feminists, and the Jews," as he
suggested. Yet he cites it to justify the murder of children
whose only crime was that of being found "unruly" by Adolf
Hitler's murdering thugs.

For information about Mr. Vangel's hate group, see
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/christian-identity

--
'I fully accept this, it's a fact. The discussion on Auschwitz, the gas
chambers and the Holocaust is finished ... it's useless to dispute it'.
(David Irving on Holocaust denial, as quoted by his Austrian lawyer)

---

The Muslim cartoons are in response to Muslim activism and terrorist
acts supported by many mullahs. As well many practising Muslims support
the acts of terror carried out by terrorists whom profess, "There is
no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet." Want have the Jews done
that a Danish newspaper would need to have an editorial cartoon about
it? I have noticed a rise in anti-semitism lately and I find it
appallingly stupid.

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On 25 Feb 2006 21:49:44 -0800, in van.general "Greg Carr" <gregpcarr@yahoo.ca> wrote:

¡The Muslim cartoons are in response to Muslim activism and terrorist
¡acts supported by many mullahs. As well many practising Muslims support
¡the acts of terror carried out by terrorists whom profess, "There is
¡no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet." Want have the Jews done
¡that a Danish newspaper would need to have an editorial cartoon about
¡it? I have noticed a rise in anti-semitism lately and I find it
¡appallingly stupid.
¡

Okay Sudan loses a Rx factory, America loses a stock trading ot gambling building. Even?
Maybe we should send Clinton and his administration at the time so the Sudan can try him and
his thugs for war crimes for blow job cover up purposes and call it even.

Completely even. Then forget it, relax and try to understand each other and possibly stay out of the
middle east issues, who cares what happens to Israel or any other area out there, is the Massad not
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"...It follows that if in such a fortunate situation it (the country/state) would have nothing to fear but itself, and if citizens
were trained in arms, it would be more for maintaining that soldiery spirit and noble courage that are so well suited for
freedom and cultivate the taste for it rather than from the necessity for it's citizens' actual defence. -- Jean-Jacques
Rousseau; To The Republic Of Geneva: Discourse On Inequality.
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"Freedom can only exist if all laws apply to all people." -- Jean-Jacques Rousseau; possible paraphrase.
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"Think, it's not illegal yet." -- George Clinton
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"He who loves himself became great in himself, and he who loved others became great through his devotion, and he
who loved God became greater than all." -- Søren Kierkegaard
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"Life must be lived forwards, but it can only be understood backwards" -- Søren Kierkegaard
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"A Press That Is Not Free Isn't A Press At All" -- Gölök Buday
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"A Government, Of All Things, Is To Be Questioned And Inspected" -- Gölök Buday
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"At The Very Least, Insanity Isn't Unsanitary" -- Gölök Buday
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"it is an abomination for a person's tax dollars to be used to further a faith to which he does not subscribe. You want to
pray, go to church. Nobody's objecting." -- Thomas Jefferson
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"I am the first Prime Minister of this country of neither altogether English nor French origin. So I determined to bring
about a Canadian citizenship that knew no hyphenated consideration." - Prime Minister Diefenbaker, March 29,
1958, Maclean's.
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"We shall never build the nation which our potential resources make possible by dividing ourselves into Anglophones,
Francophones, multiculturalphones, or whatever kind of phoneys you choose. I say: Americans, first, last, and always!"
- Gölök Buday, Purposely misquoting the Chiefs Quote For His Own Agenda (2002).
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"Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong." - Prime Minister Diefenbaker, March 11, 1958
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"As long as there is a drop of blood in my body they won't stop me from talking about freedom." - Prime Minister
Diefenbaker, June 3, 1962, Sudbury, Ontario.
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"Freedom includes the right to say what others may object to and resent... The essence of citizenship is to be tolerant
of strong and provocative words." - Prime Minister Diefenbaker, April 9, 1970, House of Commons.
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"I Am A Surrealists" -- What Salvador Dali Said When Asked Why He Didn't Belong To The Surrealists (this may
be true, regarding why actors tend not to belong to the Group of Actors and Libertarians don't always belong to the
Libertarian Party.)
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"I wish to preach not the doctrine of ignoble ease but the doctrine of the strenuous life" -- Theodore Rooseveldt
[IV-10-1899, Chicago, IL]
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"I prefer to go to church, not have church come to me." -- Gölök Buday
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"It's almost as if he [Bill Clinton] spent 8 years pissing all over the presidency and on his last day went, 'oh! missed a
spot." -- Lewis Black on Rich Pardon, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
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"Honesty Makes An Opinion Important, Dishonesty Makes It Irrelevant (unimportant even)" -- Gölök Buday; 2002
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"An Opinion, Like An Axe, Is Only As Good As The Person Who Wields It." -- Gölök Buday
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"The Value Of A Comment Derives From The Honesty Of The Orator And/Or Writer." -- Gölök Buday
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"The Height Of Genius Is The Ability To Conceal It." -- George Bernard Shaw
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"[To My Fellow-Citizens of the United States of America
   I put the following work under your protection. It contains my opinion on religion.] You will do me justice to
remember that I have always strenuously supported the right to his own opinion, however different that opinion may be
to mine. He who denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself
the right of changing it." -- Thomas Paine, The Age Of Reason.
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"There Is A Difference Between Community Involvement and Being Involved (Or A Part Of) In A Community."
-- Gölök Buday
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"We trained hard but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form into teams, we would be reorganized. I was
to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing. And what a wonderful method it can be for
creating the illusion of progress while producing inefficiency, confusion and demoralization." -- Gaius Petronius Arbiter,
1st century AD; Satyricon.
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"If You Have A Lawsuit, Your Goods, Your Honor, Your Very Life Depends On The Very Interpretation Of A Book You
Never Read." -- Francois "Voltaire" Marie Arouet; Phil. Dictionary.
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"The Suppression Of A Word Is What Gives It Power." -- Lenny Bruce.
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"Window Peepers, Authoritarians In General, Tend To Be The Biggest Scoundrels." -- Gölök Buday
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"Sometimes, It's Not A Good Idea To Listen For, But A Good Question." -- Gölök Buday.
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"Small Government's A Start" -- Gölök Buday.
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"Funny how diversity is ok unless it's of opinion or philosophical." -- Gölök Zoltán Leenderdt Franco Buday; On
"Divisive Opinions and Issues;" December 2nd, 2002.
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"I rather have one competant employee, than a million incompetent ones, one competent something than a million
incompetent something; and criminality counts as incompetance in business as well." -- Gölök Z. L. F. Buday
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It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can stop him from lynching me,and I think that's pretty
important. -- Martin Luther King Jr.
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"The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason. I have never used any other, and I trust I never
shall." -- Thomas Paine, The Age Of Reason
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"We are not afraid to follow the truth where ever it may lead, nor [afraid] to tolerate any error so long as reason is left
free to combat it." -- Thomas Jefferson
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"A Republic, Not An Empire." -- Patrick J. Buchanan, Title of His Book and a point about the USoA.
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X-Etcetera...
PS I am not, nor have been, known as Grant Buday
PPS Not Che from che-lives.com
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