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Første syntetisk fremstillede virus
Fra : Bent Jensen


Dato : 12-07-02 10:30

11 July 2002
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2122000/2122619.stm
First synthetic virus created

By Dr David Whitehouse
BBC News Online science editor

Scientists have assembled the first synthetic virus.
The US researchers built the infectious agent from scratch using the
genome sequence for polio.

Scientists are divided about whether a virus is alive. For those that
think it is, then this synthetic artefact would constitute a simple
form of life.

Responding to criticisms that such research could lead to
bioterrorists engineering new lethal viruses, the scientists behind
the experiment said that only a few people had the knowledge to make
it happen.

'New reality'

To construct the virus, the researchers say they followed a recipe
they downloaded from the internet and used gene sequences from a
mail-order supplier.
Having constructed the virus, which appears to be identical to its
natural counterpart, the researchers, from the University of New York
at Stony Brook, injected it into mice to demonstrate that it was
active.

The animals were paralysed and then died.

"The reason we did it was to prove that it can be done and it now is a
reality," said Dr Eckard Wimmer, leader of the biomedical research
team and co-author of the study published in the journal Science.

"This approach has been talked about, but people didn't take it
seriously," said Dr Wimmer.

"Now people have to take it seriously. Progress in biomedical research
has its benefits and it has its down side. There is a danger inherent
to progress in sciences. This is a new reality, a new consideration."

'Very easy to do'

According to researcher Jeronimo Cello, the polio virus assembled in
the laboratory is one of the simplest known viruses. "It was very easy
to do," he said.
The more dangerous smallpox virus would be complex and difficult to
assemble, but Cello says, "it would probably in the future be
possible".

Dr Wimmer added: "The world had better be prepared."

Smallpox has been eradicated in the wild, but specimens are stored in
the United States and the Soviet Union.

Dr Wimmer said assembling the polio virus showed that eradicating a
virus in the wild might not mean it was gone forever because
biochemists could now reconstruct those viruses from blueprints.

Following last year's terrorist and anthrax-by-mail attacks, US
officials became concerned about the threat of smallpox and arranged
for the manufacture of enough vaccine to protect the US population.

Matter of time

Dr CJ Peters, director for the Center for Biodefense at the University
of Texas Medical Center at Galveston, said experts had known for years
that it was theoretically possible to assemble a virus in the lab.
"We've known this could be done. We've known it was just a matter of
time before it was done," he said.

Dr Peters said he was concerned that publicity about a synthesized
virus might lead some people to believe "that there is nothing that
can be done about bioterrorism - which is not the case".

He added that it was possible that viruses like Ebola could be
assembled in laboratories, but there were only a few people in the
world with that skill.

Polio is on the brink of being eradicated worldwide and there are
plans to stop inoculations against the disease after it disappears
from nature.

Dr Wimmer said that this policy should be reconsidered. Stopping
vaccination could lead to a generation of people highly susceptible to
polio, enhancing its appeal as a weapon.

The World Health Organization is planning to stockpile vaccines
against a return of polio and Dr Wimmer said that policy should be
followed everywhere.

 
 
Martin Højriis Krist~ (13-07-2002)
Kommentar
Fra : Martin Højriis Krist~


Dato : 13-07-02 10:44

"Bent Jensen" <kongaead@my-deja.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:9a3bbfb0.0207120129.10620c84@posting.google.com...
> Scientists are divided about whether a virus is alive.

Hvis et virus er levende så er et protein det også, imo

--
Martin Højriis Kristensen - http://www.makr.dk/?usenet
Jeg repræsenterer med dette indlæg mig selv og ikke TDC Internet



Jon Larsen (17-07-2002)
Kommentar
Fra : Jon Larsen


Dato : 17-07-02 09:31


> > Scientists are divided about whether a virus is alive.
>
> Hvis et virus er levende så er et protein det også, imo
>
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Nej.. Proteiner indeholder ikke RNA eller DNA.. Det gør virus.. dog har
virus ikke selvstændigt stofskifte og det er derfor de er i tvivl om virus
er en levende organisme.

Den nuværende definition på liv er hvis jeg ikke husker helt galt er : skal
indeholde enten RNA eller DNA eller begge, samt have en selvstændig
metabolisme.

Proteiner har endvidere ikke evnen til at reproducere sig selv. det har
virus, i kraft at enten DNA eller RNA.


--
Jon Larsen
Gixxer 250
Odense
Stud. Procesteknolog.
"Før var jeg forvirret, det er jeg også nu, bare på et højere plan"




Torben Simonsen (17-07-2002)
Kommentar
Fra : Torben Simonsen


Dato : 17-07-02 09:43

"Jon Larsen" <jon-soegaard@larsen.tdcadsl.dk> writes:

> Proteiner har endvidere ikke evnen til at reproducere sig selv. det har
> virus, i kraft at enten DNA eller RNA.

Virus kan vel kun reproducere sig selv, når det får lov til at låne
et reproduktionsapparat af den celle, det inficerer.

Gælder det samme ikke for prioner? Prioner er jo kun proteiner uden
noget indhold af nukleinsyrer.

--
-- Torben.

Martin Højriis Krist~ (17-07-2002)
Kommentar
Fra : Martin Højriis Krist~


Dato : 17-07-02 09:57

"Jon Larsen" <jon-soegaard@larsen.tdcadsl.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3d352b4d$0$54755$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk...
> > > Scientists are divided about whether a virus is alive.
> > Hvis et virus er levende så er et protein det også, imo
> Nej.. Proteiner indeholder ikke RNA eller DNA..

Det er ganske rigtig en form for livskriterie, men proteiner kan have
noget der er lige så godt.

> Proteiner har endvidere ikke evnen til at reproducere sig selv. det
har
> virus, i kraft at enten DNA eller RNA.

DNA/RNA er ikke afgørende for reproduktion. Tænk prioner

--
Martin Højriis Kristensen - http://www.makr.dk/?usenet
Jeg repræsenterer med dette indlæg mig selv og ikke TDC Internet



Jon Larsen (17-07-2002)
Kommentar
Fra : Jon Larsen


Dato : 17-07-02 14:45


>
> DNA/RNA er ikke afgørende for reproduktion. Tænk prioner
>
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Efter endnu engang at have læst op på omtalte del om prioner, bøjer jeg mig
hermed og giver flertallet ret.. "formeringsmetoden" , om man vil , minder
faktisk meget om virus-metoden. Ophobning af virus/prioner til cellebrist.
Så vidt jeg kunnel æse mig til, var det fordi 2 af de 4 aminosyre-helixer
den består af, blev omdannet til beta-strenge og derved gav defekten. men
hvordan overføres det til dannelsen af flere.??

Men hvordan "smitter" prioner helt nøjagtigt.. det kunne jeg desværre ikke
læse ?? Hvordan katalysere den defekte prion dannelsen af flere ???


--
Jon Larsen
Gixxer 250
Odense
Stud. Procesteknolog.
"Før var jeg forvirret, det er jeg også nu, bare på et højere plan"





Martin Højriis Krist~ (17-07-2002)
Kommentar
Fra : Martin Højriis Krist~


Dato : 17-07-02 15:05

"Jon Larsen" <jon-soegaard@larsen.tdcadsl.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3d3574ea$0$12716$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk...
> Men hvordan "smitter" prioner helt nøjagtigt.. det kunne jeg desværre
ikke
> læse ?? Hvordan katalysere den defekte prion dannelsen af flere ???

Jeg er ikke sikker på man helt er klar over det. Det var man ikke da jeg
læste medicinsk genetik, ihvertfald.

--
Martin Højriis Kristensen - http://www.makr.dk/?usenet
Jeg repræsenterer med dette indlæg mig selv og ikke TDC Internet



Jon Larsen (18-07-2002)
Kommentar
Fra : Jon Larsen


Dato : 18-07-02 09:30


> Jeg er ikke sikker på man helt er klar over det. Det var man ikke da jeg
> læste medicinsk genetik, ihvertfald.
>
> --
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Ok.. i min opdaterede Mikrobiologibog, står der også at prioner findes i
centralnervesystemet men der er ingen der ved hvad de er godt for ....


--
Jon Larsen
Gixxer 250
Odense
Stud. Procesteknolog.
"Før var jeg forvirret, det er jeg også nu, bare på et højere plan"



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